don't think joe has faced anyone like kelly yet. kessler looked too timid and afriad of getting into a brawl with joe, i thought he was winning the first few rounds until joe starting to step up the pace. even if joe beat bernard, he's an old champ that lost twice to taylor twice, one win against a B rated fighter in tarver shouldn't make him a pound for pound fighter. so this fight if it ever does take place would be awsome for both guys. if joe can take this fight, don't think anything can say much after.....