Ricky vs. Lazcano

[ono]

poor choice imo he just picked someone he knows he can look good against does nothing for his rep and shows his current mind set (lacking confidence). If he really is the best 140lb in the world he shouldnt need a tune up he should be fighting Witter,Torres,Paulie or Reese. Dont think i will be tuning in to this one

Hell heres an idea why dont they drag Arturo Gatti out of retirement and beat on him for couple of rounds for the fight after this

Might be a bit difficult to fight them guys seen as tho Witter has a date in March, Rees is fighting Kotelnik, Torres has a date and Paulie just fought his way out of a potential clash with Hatton.


You can't fight guys that just aren't there.

Who else does that leave?

Not many.....so Lazcano isn't the worst choice in the world.

[Fenster]

behave ono

Witter would drop any plan he made in the world to fight Hatton.. probably give him a 5 round head start too..

[ono]

behave ono

Witter would drop any plan he made in the world to fight Hatton.. probably give him a 5 round head start too..

fair point but it was obvious that Hatton wouldn't take a fight with Witter straight after being ko'd.

Can't say i blame him.

[Fenster]

fair point but it was obvious that Hatton wouldn't take a fight with Witter straight after being ko'd.

Can't say i blame him.

Fair enough Hatton needs a confidence booster BUT it's just another excuse to dodge Witter.

Witter wasn't worthy before Floyd.. Now Witter is too dangerous, Hatton needs "gimmes."

He'll be back off to America after this fight. Witter will NEVER mean anything in the States. Hatton-Witter is a Brit fight, it wont ever be happening in America.

So when exactly do you think Hatton will face him? Considering Hatton wont even consider a fight with Witter.

[ono]

Fair enough Hatton needs a confidence booster BUT it's just another excuse to dodge Witter.

Witter wasn't worthy before Floyd.. Now Witter is too dangerous, Hatton needs "gimmes."

He'll be back off to America after this fight. Witter will NEVER mean anything in the States. Hatton-Witter is a Brit fight, it wont ever be happening in America.

So when exactly do you think Hatton will face him? Considering Hatton wont even consider a fight with Witter.

I'm under the impression that Witter being on HBO next is the 1st rung on the ladder toward making the fight with Hatton.

Altho now i hear D-Hop has pulled out, it will be interesting to see what happens now.

When it happens, it will be on HBO but the fight will be in the UK, bit like Calzaghe - Kessler.

[p4pking]

I honestly am about as indifferent on this as one could be.. I mean I think it's a poor choice of opponent for Hatton, but I have never enjoyed watching Hatton fight much anyways so I likely won't watch his next regardless. I just think it's somewhat amusing how his fans play the whole "give it time, the fights will happen" card. Hatton's style does not lend itself to longevity whatsoever. Hatton is only going to get worse for wear and tear over the next few years imo. Secondly, Witter or Malignaggi are not about to become household names if we just sit back and let the 140lb division take course.. Who in the hell are they going to beat in order to garner much more bargaining power than they have now? Maybe they could fight each other in a semi high profile bout, but imo that was turn into a very dull fight which certainly wouldn't do anything to drum up demand for a Hatton fight. As has been said, 140 is not a hot division right now. Maybe Hatton will benefit from a gimme fight and then find the confidence to accept a challenge.. But I don't see why beating Lazcano should change how he feels about fighting Witter, which is really the only fight worth a damn for him right now.

[ono]

I honestly am about as indifferent on this as one could be.. I mean I think it's a poor choice of opponent for Hatton, but I have never enjoyed watching Hatton fight much anyways so I likely won't watch his next regardless. I just think it's somewhat amusing how his fans play the whole "give it time, the fights will happen" card. Hatton's style does not lend itself to longevity whatsoever. Hatton is only going to get worse for wear and tear over the next few years imo. Secondly, Witter or Malignaggi are not about to become household names if we just sit back and let the 140lb division take course.. Who in the hell are they going to beat in order to garner much more bargaining power than they have now? Maybe they could fight each other in a semi high profile bout, but imo that was turn into a very dull fight which certainly wouldn't do anything to drum up demand for a Hatton fight. As has been said, 140 is not a hot division right now. Maybe Hatton will benefit from a gimme fight and then find the confidence to accept a challenge.. But I don't see why beating Lazcano should change how he feels about fighting Witter, which is really the only fight worth a damn for him right now.

Good post and i agree to an extent. But i genuinely believe the fight will happen. It was obvious he wasn't going to fight him after a KO loss. I know there aren't many hot fighters at 140 now so thats why i get the feeling Paulie and Witter are going to be commercialised into stars....maybe not on the level of Hatton, but stars none the less. I know it's bullshit, but it's going to happen. The fights should be made now but they won't be.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I believe that we are forgetting many different factors here:

1) A fighter cannot fight a world class opponent every time. Other fighters like Miguel Cotto are proving this at the moment, so why does Ricky have to be different. He has just fought the best fighte in the world so I believe he deserves a break

2) He has just fought at Welterweight. Ricky piled on 5 pounds of muscle mass for his last fight. Fighters like Roy Jones have demonstrated the dangder of shedding muscle mass and jumping in against the best opposition available.

3) In the Maywether fight Hatton's ego took as much a bruising as his eyebrows did. Many fighters, following a defeat revert to a confidence builder, in which they can dominate and be made believe they are the best again. Ask Zab Judah.

4) Finally, Lazcano will allow Ricky to make some money and regain his repuatation and respect among from fans.

[Fenster]

I believe that we are forgetting many different factors here:

1) A fighter cannot fight a world class opponent every time. Other fighters like Miguel Cotto are proving this at the moment, so why does Ricky have to be different. He has just fought the best fighte in the world so I believe he deserves a break

2) He has just fought at Welterweight. Ricky piled on 5 pounds of muscle mass for his last fight. Fighters like Roy Jones have demonstrated the dangder of shedding muscle mass and jumping in against the best opposition available.

3) In the Maywether fight Hatton's ego took as much a bruising as his eyebrows did. Many fighters, following a defeat revert to a confidence builder, in which they can dominate and be made believe they are the best again. Ask Zab Judah.

4) Finally, Lazcano will allow Ricky to make some money and regain his repuatation and respect among from fans.

1, 2 and 3 are decent points.

4 is silly.

Allow Ricky to make some money!?!? He just made MORE MONEY in one fight than 95% of fighters could ever dream of making in a lifetime.

Regain his reputation and respect? He'll be HUGE favourite over the inactive punchbag Lazcano. The ONLY people he will satisfy are his lovers.. who don't care who Ricky fights as long as he's bullying and bashing someone round the ring.

[The Rela]

I thought Ricky just wanted the big name fighters from now on?

[Kev]

I thought Ricky just wanted the big name fighters from now on?

Yes but he meant for scrabble scores, Lazcano nets 68 even without any doubles, Witter only scores 9 and Torres 6.

Seriously knowing this who would you choose?

[donnydarkoIRL]

1, 2 and 3 are decent points.

4 is silly.

Allow Ricky to make some money!?!? He just made MORE MONEY in one fight than 95% of fighters could ever dream of making in a lifetime.

Regain his reputation and respect? He'll be HUGE favourite over the inactive punchbag Lazcano. The ONLY people he will satisfy are his lovers.. who don't care who Ricky fights as long as he's bullying and bashing someone round the ring.

The General Public now see Hatton as a fellow who made a lot of noise before getting Knocked out by Floyd Mayweather.
In their eyes a KO win over Lazcano will be a step toward redemption.

[ACEA]

To ONO

Witter has a date in March?

Against who Hopkins dropped out and if Hatton offered Witter the fight im sure he'd scrap that date without hesitation

Paulie just fought his way out of a potential clash with Hatton?

He still holds a world title and has only lost one fight against one of the very best fighters around (Cotto) sure he struggled in his last fight but hes a hell of a lot more credible than Lazcano

In their eyes a KO win over Lazcano will be a step toward redemption.

sorry hitmandonny i aint buying that its like Jermaine Taylor fighting Manfredo next and knocking the s**t outta him even Taylor fans ll know its a weak choice

i think a lot of people are being to lenient on Hatton here if Mayweather would have got KOed by Hatton and come back and fought someone like Jesse Feliciano he would get slated to f**k

[donnydarkoIRL]

To ONO
sorry hitmandonny i aint buying that its like Jermaine Taylor fighting Manfredo next and knocking the s**t outta him even Taylor fans ll know its a weak choice

i think a lot of people are being to lenient on Hatton here if Mayweather would have got KOed by Hatton and come back and fought someone like Jesse Feliciano he would get slated to f**k

I don't agree with that.
Is cotto getting flak for fighting Gomez?

Did Hopkins get much flak for fighting Wright?

If it's a totally injust fight like Oscar Forbes I see the room for criticism, but Lazcano is not bad.

[ACEA]

I don't agree with that.
Is cotto getting flak for fighting Gomez?

Did Hopkins get much flak for fighting Wright?

If it's a totally injust fight like Oscar Forbes I see the room for criticism, but Lazcano is not bad.

For Oscar there just isnt anyone out there worth fighting (he cant fight Cotto cause he cant make 147 and it would be stupid jepordising a multimilion dollar fight) as for Hopkins v Wright, Winky is a world class operater granted it was at light heavy but the fight was worth making and it turned into a very close affair. Lazcarno is there for one reason only to get KTFO and there are plenty of fish out there for Hatton to fight.