*_*_*klitschko Krew Thread*_*_*

[El Kabong]

.....dude, that jab IS a power punch...landing that with authority will put Sultan in his place early

[DaxxKahn]

LOL for Wlad I agree it is but I was talking about a nice strong hook or straight right....

The first time I really seen how strong Wlad was is when he fought Mercer...Ray had never been down and had a hell of a punch himself at the time...Wlad the first time Wlad caught Ray with a solid Combo Mercer hit the canvas like someone had pulled the rug out beneath him. No falling back no stumble just down he went...Ray got up looked staright at Wlad and just shook his head side to side...Had that HOLY S*** this guy hits hard expression.......

I always thopught that if Wlad had a chin on him like Evander the only way to stop the guy would be if your corner man caught him in the back of the head with a bat as he circled the ring

[El Kabong]

Haha yeah when Ray went down, he looked at his corner and was like "What am I supposed to do about that?"

...I actually think Wladimir has a hell of a chin he just doesn't handle being punched well. That sounds moronic but get this, Corrie Sanders hit him FLUSH several times and at no time was Wlad out cold....Wlad was definently shook up but never closed his eyes and went to sleep.....a lesser fighter would have.

Now if he had Tyson, Holyfield, or Mercer's ability to take punishment then he'd be almost unbeatable...it's only fair he have SOME flaws

[DaxxKahn]

Haha yeah when Ray went down, he looked at his corner and was like "What am I supposed to do about that?"

...I actually think Wladimir has a hell of a chin he just doesn't handle being punched well. That sounds moronic but get this, Corrie Sanders hit him FLUSH several times and at no time was Wlad out cold....Wlad was definently shook up but never closed his eyes and went to sleep.....a lesser fighter would have.

Now if he had Tyson, Holyfield, or Mercer's ability to take punishment then he'd be almost unbeatable...it's only fair he have SOME flaws

I have actually made that arguement with guys before...Like you said in the Sanders fight he was not out of it..he was not laid cold...IMO he panicked when he was hit...Did not know what to do...I think that they trained so long on offense that his team did not concentrate on defense...Vitaly did not have all that good defense either...Vitaly could just take a punch better.....Thats why I mentioned Stewart in my other post...Manny wioll concentrate on not just defense but how to keep controlled under fire...people don't realize how hard that is and if you are not used to it I dont care how hard you hit you will fall apart...

His fight against Brewster he punched himself out IMO he was winning until he got tired in the 5th.....

Everyone blast him for the 2 KO losses but no one ever credites him for getting up off the mat to beat Peter who IMO hits harder then both Sanders and Brewster...Again I give a lot of that credit to Manny...

[LUCKY_13]

I reckon if this was Vitali vs Ibragimov then it would be a one-sided fight on Vitali's favour.

Though I still think Wlad will win. I agree with Lyle on the points Wlad needs to do.


Read an article on the Klitschko forums a while back, about Ibragimov's trainer or manager or something baggin' on Wlad in some pretty ill-mannered ways.

I hope this doesn't make Wlad angry in the fight because he will not fight properly. He needs to stay focused and play the game just like he plays chess, with strategy.

[LUCKY_13]

ANother thing, stupid question but who do you pronounce Ibragimov's last name?
I have never heard it.

I always say it like... E-Bra-Gee-Mov
But I heard someone say... I-Brag-E-Mov

How you say? Lol.

[El Kabong]

I have actually made that arguement with guys before...Like you said in the Sanders fight he was not out of it..he was not laid cold...IMO he panicked when he was hit...Did not know what to do...I think that they trained so long on offense that his team did not concentrate on defense...Vitaly did not have all that good defense either...Vitaly could just take a punch better.....Thats why I mentioned Stewart in my other post...Manny wioll concentrate on not just defense but how to keep controlled under fire...people don't realize how hard that is and if you are not used to it I dont care how hard you hit you will fall apart...

His fight against Brewster he punched himself out IMO he was winning until he got tired in the 5th.....

Everyone blast him for the 2 KO losses but no one ever credites him for getting up off the mat to beat Peter who IMO hits harder then both Sanders and Brewster...Again I give a lot of that credit to Manny...

You know why that is? His trainers in the amateurs put the centers and forwards from the Russian basketball team in to spar with Vitali and made Vitali work only on his defense. So current NBA player Stanislav Medvedenko got to punch Vitali in the face without fear of a retaliatory attack.

Also Vitali's defensive style was more awkward...more along the lines of a Jack Johnson than any current fighter...it worked well for him

[LUCKY_13]

Wlad wins by unanimous decision. Suprised?!

Me not really. From the start it looked like a David vs Goliath with Goliath being the easy victor. Wlad dominated Sultan the whole fight in my opinion.

I'm happy but dissappointed at the same time. Wlad had heaps of chances to throw the right and land. He could of KOed Ibragimov easy and early.
His corner and brother, Vitali, kept telling him to throw the right but he didn't that much. Don't know if he was nervous or just toying with Sultan.

Could have been better.

I was impressed by his calmness before, during and after the fight. Especially in the interveiw when the presenter asked him "Do you plan to fight the Maskaev-Peter winner?.....Do you and Vitali plan to make the heavyweight division a 2-headed champion?"

Wlad responded with "My brother Vitali wants to come back and fight that winner....We will see what happens. We'll just keep fighting everyone that comes."

Good answer.

Klitschko Krew

[El Kabong]

....I told everyone I was a little nervous about this matchup.


I am surprised he didn't even knock down Sultan unless you count the unscored knockdown where he got saved by the ropes