True; but sometimes it helps if you can! I always comeback with reasons backed up with facts, why I am disagreeing with something, and sometimes that does indeed mean spewing dates and names.Originally Posted by TitoFan
Ali was a Heavyweight; the Heavyweights lack the quality of opposition of the Welterweights and Middleweights, and thus Burley gets ahead of him.Originally Posted by TitoFan
Carpentier is to my knowledge the only man in boxing to claim a pro national title in all eight classic divisions. He was also a European Champion from Lightweight though to Heavyweight, and claimed the World Championship at Light Heavyweight, and also held a claim as a World Heavyweight titlist.
Sammy Langford was a Middleweight who competed with the best heavyweights of the day, in a 200+ fight career.
I am comfortable putting all three above the Great Muhammad Ali.
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I said 'Impact on society' was used as a tie break:
That means there is going to be bias towards the society I know of, when I cannot separate the qualities listed above 'Impact on society'Originally Posted by Britkid
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I think you speak with a bias towards Puerto Rican fighters, and a natural instinct to look at the worst in a Mexican Great. That is fair enough, we (England) have the same rivalries with the Celts (Scotland, Wales, Ireland and France), Australia and Germany; and I probably do have a bias against the fighters from these countries.
As for Pancho Villa, well rather than mocking his name, look at his record, he was an amazing fighter who was taken from the sport too soon....
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=9433
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