Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
Haha yeah when Ray went down, he looked at his corner and was like "What am I supposed to do about that?"

...I actually think Wladimir has a hell of a chin he just doesn't handle being punched well. That sounds moronic but get this, Corrie Sanders hit him FLUSH several times and at no time was Wlad out cold....Wlad was definently shook up but never closed his eyes and went to sleep.....a lesser fighter would have.

Now if he had Tyson, Holyfield, or Mercer's ability to take punishment then he'd be almost unbeatable...it's only fair he have SOME flaws

I have actually made that arguement with guys before...Like you said in the Sanders fight he was not out of it..he was not laid cold...IMO he panicked when he was hit...Did not know what to do...I think that they trained so long on offense that his team did not concentrate on defense...Vitaly did not have all that good defense either...Vitaly could just take a punch better.....Thats why I mentioned Stewart in my other post...Manny wioll concentrate on not just defense but how to keep controlled under fire...people don't realize how hard that is and if you are not used to it I dont care how hard you hit you will fall apart...

His fight against Brewster he punched himself out IMO he was winning until he got tired in the 5th.....

Everyone blast him for the 2 KO losses but no one ever credites him for getting up off the mat to beat Peter who IMO hits harder then both Sanders and Brewster...Again I give a lot of that credit to Manny...