Just rewatched Pacquaio-JMM 1

[Taeth]

There are two differences first JMM didn't have PAcquaio figured for the whole fight like some people claim, Pacquaio made an changes and JMM lost his advantage he had going. Secondly, Pacquaio is better than he was be a long shot while JMM is worse than he was then. Last but not least Pacquaio is better than JMM, he might not be as good of a boxer, or defensively but his offense is so good he overcomes all his shortcommings and is one of the most special fighters we've seen ina long time.

[Julius Rain]

One thing is for sure, that was jmms best performance and best fight in his whole life. the fight was controversial and ironnically jmm is suppose to be technically better but technically pac should of won that. Yes, if not for the ref scoring the first round wrong. Jmm will need to pull off another best performance of his life just to survive again let alone win. Worst of all, for jmm his facing an even better pacman. Not only did but he piss pacman off by saying pac is not a mexican killer. Ok pac doesn't like to be dubbed that and the race thing is stupid but its not what jmm said its how jmm was saying things that got under pacs skin. Now pac is in the gym focus and in murderous mode. For a long long time no reports of pac bein unfocus and all the bs that comes before his fights. Jmm not only had it bad before, now he made it even worst by pissing pac off. No doubt jmm won't survive this time. The great counter puncher JMM wll get countered by a right hook and down and out he'll be.

[WelshDevilRob]

I can't see Marquez winning the rematch. He's not got better just older.

PacMan has more experience since the last fight and will win in a more convincing manner. Good match-up.

[Puerto Rican Punch]

This is a hard pick, but I will select JMM for winning the fight. He really has great skills and I think that this time he will be more careful of not being hit as he was in the first round (first fight). I think Pacman could surprise him with his speed and power, but JMM survived and made the adjustments. I believe JMM will be better prepared this time, and Pacman already lost the surprise factor of the first fight.

[BoomBoom]

I think the fight was rightfully a draw. I think the rematch could go the same way with but I dont see JMM getting knocked down 3 times so Ill say Marquez will win a close and controversial decision. I think the first fight was not so much that JMM figured out Pac, Pac just couldnt figure out Juan.

[The Boxer]

One thing is for sure, that was jmms best performance and best fight in his whole life. the fight was controversial and ironnically jmm is suppose to be technically better but technically pac should of won that. Yes, if not for the ref scoring the first round wrong. Jmm will need to pull off another best performance of his life just to survive again let alone win. Worst of all, for jmm his facing an even better pacman. Not only did but he piss pacman off by saying pac is not a mexican killer. Ok pac doesn't like to be dubbed that and the race thing is stupid but its not what jmm said its how jmm was saying things that got under pacs skin. Now pac is in the gym focus and in murderous mode. For a long long time no reports of pac bein unfocus and all the bs that comes before his fights. Jmm not only had it bad before, now he made it even worst by pissing pac off. No doubt jmm won't survive this time. The great counter puncher JMM wll get countered by a right hook and down and out he'll be.

so are you saying JMM didn't get any better.

i'm gonna say this to give you Pac fans something to think about. PAC knock JMM down 3 times in the 1st round and JMM comes back to make it an extreemly close fight. fight many including myself felt he won. what makes you so sure that he can finish him? he couldn't do it then. i'm gonna re watch the fight with in the next week so i can tell you exactly how JMM will win.

this fight should have happen at least 3 years ago.

[:::PSL:::]

so are you saying JMM didn't get any better.

i'm gonna say this to give you Pac fans something to think about. PAC knock JMM down 3 times in the 1st round and JMM comes back to make it an extreemly close fight. fight many including myself felt he won. what makes you so sure that he can finish him? he couldn't do it then. i'm gonna re watch the fight with in the next week so i can tell you exactly how JMM will win.

this fight should have happen at least 3 years ago.

It should've, but it didn't.

Pac wasn't even in his prime yet when he floored prime JMM 3x.

Now, PRIME PAC vs 3 YEARS PAST HIS PRIME JMM?... go figure.

[The Boxer]

High you figure Pac wasn't in his prime against JMM? How is JMM past his prime? i've never heard this before today.

[:::PSL:::]

High you figure Pac wasn't in his prime against JMM? How is JMM past his prime? i've never heard this before today.

Pac was left hand happy back then against JMM. Morales benifited from that fight and defeated Pac. EM used Pac-JMM blueprint.

I noticed JMM's reflex was starting to slow down a bit against Jaca. He won that fight by KO btw, I gotta give him that. His punching power has deteriorated and have been brawling more lately. His fights with MAB and Juarez are very indicative of that.

[The Boxer]

i'll give you JMM being past it a little, but Pac was prime when they fought.

[Mad_Dog]

Pac was left hand happy back then against JMM. Morales benifited from that fight and defeated Pac. EM used Pac-JMM blueprint.

I noticed JMM's reflex was starting to slow down a bit against Jaca. He won that fight by KO btw, I gotta give him that. His punching power has deteriorated and have been brawling more lately. His fights with MAB and Juarez are very indicative of that.

I agree with you 100%, after those fights I was commenting that Marquez seemed to have lost a step. A prime JMM was as good as PAC, this JMM will get massacred.

[Julius Rain]

so are you saying JMM didn't get any better.

i'm gonna say this to give you Pac fans something to think about. PAC knock JMM down 3 times in the 1st round and JMM comes back to make it an extreemly close fight. fight many including myself felt he won. what makes you so sure that he can finish him? he couldn't do it then. i'm gonna re watch the fight with in the next week so i can tell you exactly how JMM will win.

this fight should have happen at least 3 years ago.

Yes he kd jmm three times, yes jmm came back to win most of the rounds after that and yes many though jmm won the fight (jmm fan ofcourse). Everything you said has already been thought about and heard of, what was it that was suppose to be especial for us to think about? how can we be sure pac can finish jmm off this time around?

well if you know boxing, everything points to jmm getting stop.

The first fight was jmms best performance, and it only got him a draw. If you want to talk technically, you can ask the judge that mis-scored it. He apologize for his mistake. He admit pac should of won sd. although jmm put up a great fight he didn't win that fight. Pac won enough to still win. It was a hill jmm just couldn't climb.

Another big factor, pac was one demensional then. Since you don't agree pac wasn't prime then. Well do you think pac is still one demensional now?

Keep it coming, I like replying to you more than addicted to boxing cause you seem like you have a bit more sense then that retard.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Yes he kd jmm three times, yes jmm came back to win most of the rounds after that and yes many though jmm won the fight (jmm fan ofcourse). Everything you said has already been thought about and heard of, what was it that was suppose to be especial for us to think about? how can we be sure pac can finish jmm off this time around?

well if you know boxing, everything points to jmm getting stop.

The first fight was jmms best performance, and it only got him a draw. If you want to talk technically, you can ask the judge that mis-scored it. He apologize for his mistake. He admit pac should of won sd. although jmm put up a great fight he didn't win that fight. Pac won enough to still win. It was a hill jmm just couldn't climb.

Another big factor, pac was one demensional then. Since you don't agree pac wasn't prime then. Well do you think pac is still one demensional now?

Keep it coming, I like replying to you more than addicted to boxing cause you seem like you have a bit more sense then that retard.

Julius, sure Pac is no longer 1 demensional but I would hardly say that Pac is sound enough to be considered a ring tecnician. I also feel that JMM is a shade of what he used to be. Which adds to his legacy of beating old warriors. Add todays JD outcome and now I can see Pac and his followers calling out Juan. From what I saw today, Pac could whup him, providing JD comes to the fight as poorly conditoned / focused as he was today. His cornermen were complete amateurs. So if Pac rattled him early I see him buckling. Nate exposed him as many said he would. Lets get this straight, I do not hate Pac! I hate the level of competition he has faced and attained fame in doing so. I just want to see him see him fight young hungry bucks and afford them the opportunity he was given by MAB. Sure MAB & EM sound good on paper but everyone knows boxers well into their 30's are not what they once were. I just wanna see Pac against Soto, Valero, and Guzman. Clean house and then jump up in weight. Beating old and worn EM, MAB and a 34 year old JMM just does not seal the envelope.

[ICB]

so are you saying JMM didn't get any better.

i'm gonna say this to give you Pac fans something to think about. PAC knock JMM down 3 times in the 1st round and JMM comes back to make it an extreemly close fight. fight many including myself felt he won. what makes you so sure that he can finish him? he couldn't do it then. i'm gonna re watch the fight with in the next week so i can tell you exactly how JMM will win.

this fight should have happen at least 3 years ago.

Because Marquez is brawling much more than he used to, even though he is a surperb counter puncher he seems to want to get stuck in much more than he used to. Marquez can win many ways by using the straight right hand which is a southpaw's biggest weakness and one of Marquez's best punches. In fact i know this may sound strange but i think he should abandon the jab because its hard to deal with the southpaw jab. And he should just lead with straight right hands IMO. He needs to take a step back when Pacquiao is on the offensive then counter, he also needs to time Pacquiao's bobbing and weaving, Pacquiao may have faster hands but have you ever heard the old saying timing beats speed ?? Marquez can also step outside Pacquiao's lead leg and force him to move in a direction that is against Pacquiao's natural power. It all depends on how Marquez approaches this fight, Pacquiao has improved since there first meeting and has much more array of punches, where as Marquez has been brawling much more which doesn't bode well for Marquez, but im still going with my boy Marquez pulling off a tough UD, 115-113, 116-112, 115-113. I think Marquez has what it takes to beat Pacquiao *Style Wise* lets just see if he can execute it.

[leftylee]

Because Marquez is brawling much more than he used to, even though he is a surperb counter puncher he seems to want to get stuck in much more than he used to. Marquez can win many ways by using the straight right hand which is a southpaw's biggest weakness and one of Marquez's best punches. In fact i know this may sound strange but i think he should abandon the jab because its hard to deal with the southpaw jab. And he should just lead with straight right hands IMO. He needs to take a step back when Pacquiao is on the offensive then counter, he also needs to time Pacquiao's bobbing and weaving, Pacquiao may have faster hands but have you ever heard the old saying timing beats speed ?? Marquez can also step outside Pacquiao's lead leg and force him to move in a direction that is against Pacquiao's natural power. It all depends on how Marquez approaches this fight, Pacquiao has improved since there first meeting and has much more array of punches, where as Marquez has been brawling much more which doesn't bode well for Marquez, but im still going with my boy Marquez pulling off a tough UD, 115-113, 116-112, 115-113. I think Marquez has what it takes to beat Pacquiao *Style Wise* lets just see if he can execute it.

We still have our bet right ??, My opinion has changed from Pac points to Pac KO