The thing is, that if you started to work out harder than you ever had, and eating better, at the same time as taking Trenabol, at 20 yrs old, when your testosterone count is through the roof naturally... How the fuck do you know the stuff did anything at all? All I know is that I'm 20 yrs old, have been training for less than 2 yrs, never taking any sort of hormone/phermone stack and put your physique to shame.