Where Does Israel Vasquez Now Rank In The Top 10 P4P ??

[Hulk]

I rank him right in the middle of the pack--#5.....

My top 10 gores pretty much

1. Floyd Mayweather

2. Bernard Hopkins

3. Joe Calzaghe

4. Manny Pacquiao

5. Israel Vazquez

6. Chris John

7. Juan Manuel Marquez

8. Ivan Calderon

9. Rafael Marquez

10. Miguel Cotto

Why is Chris John so high? He's not in any mainstream lists at all. I respect that he edged out JMM like a year or so ago, but JMM has defeated much greater fighters than John has.

[:::PSL:::]

Why is Chris John so high? He's not in any mainstream lists at all. I respect that he edged out JMM like a year or so ago, but JMM has defeated much greater fighters than John has.

Agreed. But then, that's just somebody's opinion.

I would go berserk if the Ring puts John in the top 10 though.

[leftylee]

1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Bernard Hopkins
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Israel Vazquez
6) Joe Calzaghe
7) Kelly Pavlik
Miguel Cotto
9) Rafel Marquez
10) Ivan Calderon

[donnydarkoIRL]

I had Vasquez just entering the last time I composed a list, he's certainly Top ten in my estimation

[Julius Rain]

1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Bernard Hopkins
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Israel Vazquez
6) Joe Calzaghe
7) Kelly Pavlik
Miguel Cotto
9) Rafel Marquez
10) Ivan Calderon

good list but i'll still put hatton above ivan, hatton has only lost to the number 1 p4p . Ivan is skilled but he ain't never fought any fighter like koysta or castillo who imo beat floyd ones.

[DaxxKahn]

Why is Chris John so high? He's not in any mainstream lists at all. I respect that he edged out JMM like a year or so ago, but JMM has defeated much greater fighters than John has.

Why not? He has not been beat in his 10 year career...The closest he has come to defeat is a SD 5 years ago...9 defenses of his WBA title...And it matters none if JMM has beaten better fighters fact is he has not beaten John....People tend to forget about guys that don't get TV exposure as much as the mainstream guys...John is a legit P4P fighter that sits on top of a talented division there are other names I could question on anyones list...At least John has yet to proved not worthy

[Julius Rain]

Why not? He has not been beat in his 10 year career...The closest he has come to defeat is a SD 5 years ago...9 defenses of his WBA title...And it matters none if JMM has beaten better fighters fact is he has not beaten John....People tend to forget about guys that don't get TV exposure as much as the mainstream guys...John is a legit P4P fighter that sits on top of a talented division there are other names I could question on anyones list...At least John has yet to proved not worthy

come on daxx, john is pathetic the guy didn't beat jmm. Jmm a known counter puncher had to chase that monkey around cause the guy barely threw at jmm. Jmm won that fight, john is a protected fraud. being undefeated doesn't matter unless your floyd who imo has beaten way better opponent then john has even seen let alone fought. the guy doesn't sit on his division he just sits in his country. Pretending to be the best in the world but he never set foot outside his land. Cotto is undefeated and he has beaten the likes of shane mosley but yet you have cotto below this clown? come on daxx, this is one post i can not learn from you cause it is wrong

[DaxxKahn]

come on daxx, john is pathetic the guy didn't beat jmm. Jmm a known counter puncher had to chase that monkey around cause the guy barely threw at jmm. Jmm won that fight, john is a protected fraud. being undefeated doesn't matter unless your floyd who imo has beaten way better opponent then john has even seen let alone fought. the guy doesn't sit on his division he just sits in his country. Pretending to be the best in the world but he never set foot outside his land. Cotto is undefeated and he has beaten the likes of shane mosley but yet you have cotto below this clown? come on daxx, this is one post i can not learn from you cause it is wrong

Opinion's vary mate...Sorry I am not living up to your expectations as a poster...I will banish myself from the forum in shame

[SweetPea]

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. JM Marquez
4. Calzaghe
5. Hopkins
6. Cotto
7. Vazquez

[Julius Rain]

Opinion's vary mate...Sorry I am not living up to your expectations as a poster...I will banish myself from the forum in shame

NO DAXX!!!!




we need you!!!



I take it back, its the best list ever.

[DaxxKahn]

NO DAXX!!!!




we need you!!!



I take it back, its the best list ever.

Now you are patronizing me

Seriously though a big reason John is over looked is because there are little fights of his seen in mainstream....He is a damn good fighter

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rz0BJhPctZQ

[Pugilistic]

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Israel Vasquez
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Kelly Pavlik
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ricky Hatton

[El Gamo]

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Israel Vasquez
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Kelly Pavlik
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ricky Hatton

Calderon desrves to be in that list as much as Pavlik,Cotto Marquez and Hatton.

[El Gamo]

Sorry Daxx, a great list apart from John. He didn' deserve the W over JMM at all. And that his ONLY big win. I'm not syaing he's a bad fighter but he dam sure as heck is not top 10 P4P,no way.

[DaxxKahn]

Sorry Daxx, a great list apart from John. He didn' deserve the W over JMM at all. And that his ONLY big win. I'm not syaing he's a bad fighter but he dam sure as heck is not top 10 P4P,no way.

Just an opinion mate...TBH I disagree with a lot of people having Cotto so high....I like Cotto and think he is a great fighter but I see some people having him at 4 or 5....TBH and you mentioned it yourself...IMO Calderon is overlooked on all the list pretty much for the same reason...Lack of exposure