Kessler scared of Pantera?

[The Fightfan]

I would like to see Kessler fight a tune-up or maybe Jermain Taylor that would be big.Then get the match with Miranda.

[Deanrw]

Miranda is one of my favorite fighters. With all his limitations, he is still entertaining and willing to mix it up with anyone. He will always be dangerous and is a likable fellow. You have to give him credit.

Plus he comes with a bonus feature!! That's right folks, he has a lil bit of Mayorga-ness in him and is willing to talk some trash.

[No Contest]

I swear he thinks this is the WWF. Soon he's gonna start shaking during interviews like he's Hulk Hogan. At the end of this interview did he rip his shirt off and say: What ya gonna do brother? What ya gonna do? When the 24" pythons are coming for you.

[Deanrw]

I swear he thinks this is the WWF. Soon he's gonna start shaking during interviews like he's Hulk Hogan. At the end of this interview did he rip his shirt off and say: What ya gonna do brother? What ya gonna do? When the 24" pythons are coming for you.

LOL so true. He is like a real life Clubber Lang. "Miranda Pity's The Fool who dares step into the ring with him."

No matter how you slice it though, he has one punch power and many fighters will be wary about him. I don't see Pascal listed as having any upcoming fights, so I guess he backed out of fighting Miranda also.

[No Contest]

I don't see anyone calling out Pantera, Pascal has pretty much vanished. Last time I saw him he was on ESPN calling out Miranda, and the fight still isn't signed? I gotta hear the excuse for this one

[CutMeMick]

I gotta say being the biggest Kess fan...
I'm really gutted to hear this.

I'd like to hear from Kess himself what happened here.

[Mikkel_K]

I gotta say being the biggest Kess fan...
I'm really gutted to hear this.

I'd like to hear from Kess himself what happened here.

I am not to happy to see that either to be honest. It would be a good fight, and I am sure Kessler would win it. So why not take it?

However, it seem a bit premature to just accept any press release from Miranda's people as facts - surely there could be more sides to the argument? First of all the definition of 'lucrative' is likely to differ. This would most likely be for less money than Kessler has earned for a fight in at least three years (the Beyer fight aside, but he took a cut there as a surefire investment), secondly this would be promoted by Miranda's people. It cannot be that surprising that Kessler does not just jump at the first chance.

Still, something about this bothers me. Not necessarily that Kessler rejects this fight, but more so that I think (fear) that Kessler and Palle are overestimating themselves. They find themselves in a position, they haven't been in since before 2004. Beltless contenders, back to the drawing board etc. And I dont think they are ready to accept this - that while they think the Calzaghe fight proved the continuation of succesful learning curve - and in fairness I agree, I dont think he should come out of the Calzaghe fight with a worse reputation, than he went in there with - it left him in a completely different part of the curve.

Now Kessler might actually need to fight someone who has lost two of his last six fights and has never held a title, in a fight with no belts on the line. And if he keep refusing this reality, then what will happen with his career?

However, all this being said, I am merely a fan. I want him to fight all the elite fighters, preferably at a rate of at least once a month. And he might as well do this for peanuts for all I know. I do respect though that Kessler, his promoter, his family and friends etc might have different views on his career.

[Wayne]

I would like to see Kessler fight a tune-up or maybe Jermain Taylor that would be big.Then get the match with Miranda.

Are you kidding? Jermain Taylor as a tune-up for Edison Miranda? Taylor would MURDERLIZE Miranda! Save for Arthur Abraham, I don't see anyone who has held a title at 160-168 losing to Miranda. He's a club fighter dipped in money, but a club fighter nonetheless.

[ICB]

Are you kidding? Jermain Taylor as a tune-up for Edison Miranda? Taylor would MURDERLIZE Miranda! Save for Arthur Abraham, I don't see anyone who has held a title at 160-168 losing to Miranda. He's a club fighter dipped in money, but a club fighter nonetheless.

Even before Miranda lost to Pavlik i could never understand why people thought Miranda would beat Taylor, Miranda is sloppy and has no defense, ok he has good power and he is exciting, but he isn't even in the same league as Jermain Taylor IMO.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I disagree I think Mirandas power gives him a great shot against any fighter really. However, he is desperately in need of technical improvement.

[ICB]

I disagree I think Mirandas power gives him a great shot against any fighter really. However, he is desperately in need of technical improvement.

Yes his power is a great equalizer but relying on just power alone will only get you so far in boxing, and against a great boxer like Jermain Taylor i don't see his power being that much of a factor, the reason why Taylor lost to Pavlik was because of Pavlik's long stiff jab which Miranda hasn't got, plus because of Pavlik's straight shots right down the pipe, another attribute Miranda doesn't really have.

[Bomp]

That might be the problem Kess has with Miranda, the risk/reward thing, most fans would expect him to beat Miranda comfortably, and anything less than emphatic (like Pavlik did) would be deemed a poor performance. He should fight him anyway IMO, Kessler needs to keep busy and in the spotlight before he becomes a risky guy on the sidelines that's avoided since he hasn't got a belt.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Ha Ha Kessler is the guy at 1168 that I feel can beat anyone though. His boxing may be waht carries him in the future though.

[Bomp]

That's what I mean, with Calzaghe moving up and joining the seniors tour, Kessler is definitely the guy to beat, however that is just opinion, there are still plenty opposition for him at SM that he hasn't faced. If he starts putting in unreasonable demands regarding purse and that he may find himself in the position Winky was in for most of his career, and where he's back now.

[Deanrw]

Miranda is like a Bull in a China Cabinet. Rough and free swinging. He throws wild but sneaky right hands that seem to have a fair bit of reach and find their mark.

Any fighter with less than a stellar jaw he has a potential to beat. He can also take a good pounding himself.


Those reasons alone will convince many potential opponents to look the other way. Yes he can be wild and crude with his delivery, but he does deliver. He is a risky guy to fight and a hard fight for anyone.

Miranda can get roughed up as Pavlik proved, but Pavlik loves to fight like that and smothered much of Miranda's shots. Guys like Taylor, Kessler etc, well they like distance and fight on their back foot. Miranda I can see catching those type of fighters at the end of his punches while they are pulling back. Can they take his punches? I have no idea. I am interested in finding out