Hey, I called it... Manfredo to move to 160

[donnydarkoIRL]

He had deffinite weight issues at 54... But moving up 14 pounds? Fire your handlers!

Thats for sure! Man I couldn't believe it to be honest, but I do suppose he made more money than many fighters so it wasn't completely nosensical.

A logical move not a noble move.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Thats for sure! Man I couldn't believe it to be honest, but I do suppose he made more money than many fighters so it wasn't completely nosensical.

A logical move not a noble move.

True... I still say that 154 would be best... That is a lack luster div. right now

[donnydarkoIRL]

True... I still say that 154 would be best... That is a lack luster div. right now

Peter would actually be at his best at 154 too. He would gain a good degree of speed and would have a big advantage in terms of power.

Who knows though at 160, he may still get some fights with guys like Tito and Duddy.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Peter would actually be at his best at 154 too. He would gain a good degree of speed and would have a big advantage in terms of power.

Who knows though at 160, he may still get some fights with guys like Tito and Duddy.

If he's not targetting Duddy for a fight at the garden he'd be an idiot... 2 money makes... Duddy fans want to see him batter Peter and Manfredo fans want to see peter box his ears off!

[donnydarkoIRL]

If he's not targetting Duddy for a fight at the garden he'd be an idiot... 2 money makes... Duddy fans want to see him batter Peter and Manfredo fans want to see peter box his ears off!

Peter has been handed a ticket which means he can easily make good money fighting anyone with a reasonable name, double that with Dudy's name and I think they'd sell it out as a main event.

I agree if he's not looking for it he's silly.
But Duddy may need him just as much as Manfredo might want him after Duddy fails in a title bid.

[RozzySean]

Duddy definately needs this fight more. I can't image the two sides haven't talked about it. It might not happen this year, but it will happen. I think Manfredo moving down is the first step towards making this happen.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Duddy definately needs this fight more. I can't image the two sides haven't talked about it. It might not happen this year, but it will happen. I think Manfredo moving down is the first step towards making this happen.

I don't know that Duddy needs it more, If he fights anybody over hear he'll sell out a venue and get a hundred thousand viewers on TV. Thats a lot of money.

[Diane]

Okay Pride, I know you are a fan, and I'm not trying to bash Manfredo, (okay, maybe just a little ) or pick a fight, but I don't see him making any waves at 160 either.

Here's why:

1) His whole reason for moving up to 168 was because he said that he couldn't make 160 anymore. During, and after The Contender, he bitched and moaned about how he was killing himself to make weight at 160. So how is it going to be different now? If making 160 is really that hard on him and his body, isn't he going to be draining himself of some of his power in the process of making that weight?

2) I really don't think that Peter has the mindset of a champion. Honestly, I don't think that boxing really was his passion in the first place. The impression that I, and many others seem to have, is that he was pretty much forced into the sport by his father, and stuck with it, so that he would not disappoint his father. If he really was passionate about boxing, and thought that he would be a world champion, why would go to school to become an electrician? Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if you really felt that you would be a champion, then there should be no need to have a career to fall back on.

3) Peter chokes at his big fights.

To be honest, I think Peter knows that his 15 minutes is about up, and I get the feeling that he will first fight a couple bums at 160 to get used to the weight again, and then he will call out Sergio for another rematch. He and TOC knows, that both his, and Sergio's star status has fallen dramatically, and maybe the only way to get it back, is to try for another rematch in hopes of getting that Contender fan base interest back again.

I bet that if Sergio does not make a good showing in his upcoming fight against Vernon, then shortly after that fight, the talks of a Mora/Manfredo rematch will start coming up.

This is just my opinion, but hey, if Manfredo proves me wrong, and becomes a world champion, then I'll give him the props that he deserves, I'm not above that.

But I don't think that I will have to.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Manfredo's body should easily allow him to make 154, he's not a big guy.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Okay Pride, I know you are a fan, and I'm not trying to bash Manfredo, (okay, maybe just a little ) or pick a fight, but I don't see him making any waves at 160 either.

Here's why:

1) His whole reason for moving up to 168 was because he said that he couldn't make 160 anymore. During, and after The Contender, he bitched and moaned about how he was killing himself to make weight at 160. So how is it going to be different now? If making 160 is really that hard on him and his body, isn't he going to be draining himself of some of his power in the process of making that weight?

2) I really don't think that Peter has the mindset of a champion. Honestly, I don't think that boxing really was his passion in the first place. The impression that I, and many others seem to have, is that he was pretty much forced into the sport by his father, and stuck with it, so that he would not disappoint his father. If he really was passionate about boxing, and thought that he would be a world champion, why would go to school to become an electrician? Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if you really felt that you would be a champion, then there should be no need to have a career to fall back on.

3) Peter chokes at his big fights.

To be honest, I think Peter knows that his 15 minutes is about up, and I get the feeling that he will first fight a couple bums at 160 to get used to the weight again, and then he will call out Sergio for another rematch. He and TOC knows, that both his, and Sergio's star status has fallen dramatically, and maybe the only way to get it back, is to try for another rematch in hopes of getting that Contender fan base interest back again.

I bet that if Sergio does not make a good showing in his upcoming fight against Vernon, then shortly after that fight, the talks of a Mora/Manfredo rematch will start coming up.

This is just my opinion, but hey, if Manfredo proves me wrong, and becomes a world champion, then I'll give him the props that he deserves, I'm not above that.

But I don't think that I will have to.

I don't take it as bashing but most is the truth... He will probably only be a regional fighter from here on in. I do think 154 would be a better fit and I think the weight thing is bull.. I think he's just being lazy.

I think that the only part I disagree with is world champion or not... C'mon... If he thought he was going to be champion why would he go to school to be an electrician? C'mon... So what, what your saying is he should have tried and tried and then at age 36 if that didn't work he and his family should starve for a few years while trying to pic up a trade then? Look at Juan Diaz... I'm not comparing the two as fighters but why would he continue to go to school... Hasn't he made it? That statement is rediculous. As far as he being forced in by his father... He started boxing to follow his father and uncle... His father never actully wanted him to fight...(from his fathers mouth to my ears...)

I agree with the Mora statement... I have thought about the same thing


Yeah, he does choke in big fights and it sucks... But it's true... Like I said... nomatter the weight he will be a good regional fighter for new england... Thats about it...

Diane, I really like your posts. You have a lot of knowlege of the game.