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    Default Re: Kessler scared of Pantera?

    Miranda is like a Bull in a China Cabinet. Rough and free swinging. He throws wild but sneaky right hands that seem to have a fair bit of reach and find their mark.

    Any fighter with less than a stellar jaw he has a potential to beat. He can also take a good pounding himself.


    Those reasons alone will convince many potential opponents to look the other way. Yes he can be wild and crude with his delivery, but he does deliver. He is a risky guy to fight and a hard fight for anyone.

    Miranda can get roughed up as Pavlik proved, but Pavlik loves to fight like that and smothered much of Miranda's shots. Guys like Taylor, Kessler etc, well they like distance and fight on their back foot. Miranda I can see catching those type of fighters at the end of his punches while they are pulling back. Can they take his punches? I have no idea. I am interested in finding out
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    Default Re: Kessler scared of Pantera?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    Miranda is like a Bull in a China Cabinet. Rough and free swinging. He throws wild but sneaky right hands that seem to have a fair bit of reach and find their mark.

    Any fighter with less than a stellar jaw he has a potential to beat. He can also take a good pounding himself.


    Those reasons alone will convince many potential opponents to look the other way. Yes he can be wild and crude with his delivery, but he does deliver. He is a risky guy to fight and a hard fight for anyone.

    Miranda can get roughed up as Pavlik proved, but Pavlik loves to fight like that and smothered much of Miranda's shots. Guys like Taylor, Kessler etc, well they like distance and fight on their back foot. Miranda I can see catching those type of fighters at the end of his punches while they are pulling back. Can they take his punches? I have no idea. I am interested in finding out
    Even though I don't think Miranda's that great I don't disagree with this. The thing that made him look so bad against Pavlik was that Pavlike backed him up and Miranda can't fight on the back foot, that's why he looked so amateurish. I'd give him a much better shot against Taylor (though I wouldn't pick him) because he's more comfortable going up against a guy like Taylor, a guy who he can stalk. Kind of the same with Kessler although Kessler could probably back him up with the jab and the right hand if he wanted to. Not really his style though.

    Still wouldn't pick him over Kessler and I don't see Kessler being afraid of Miranda, more of a type of risk/reward situation like somebody else mentioned, Kessler doesn't need Miranda as much as Miranda needs Kessler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Even though I don't think Miranda's that great I don't disagree with this. The thing that made him look so bad against Pavlik was that Pavlike backed him up and Miranda can't fight on the back foot, that's why he looked so amateurish. I'd give him a much better shot against Taylor (though I wouldn't pick him) because he's more comfortable going up against a guy like Taylor, a guy who he can stalk. Kind of the same with Kessler although Kessler could probably back him up with the jab and the right hand if he wanted to. Not really his style though.

    Still wouldn't pick him over Kessler and I don't see Kessler being afraid of Miranda, more of a type of risk/reward situation like somebody else mentioned, Kessler doesn't need Miranda as much as Miranda needs Kessler.
    Well Kessler came to the US looking for someone to fight over here. I don't think they will put Taylor in with him right away. Lacy is still rebounding. They only guys who seems suitable would be guys like Miranda or Green. Green is going through a contract dispute. Miranda seems to be the only logical opponent over here at this time. Kess mentioned Winky as a possible opponent, but I would rather see him fight Miranda myself as a Miranda fight would guarantee some excitement.

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    Default Re: Kessler scared of Pantera?

    Miranda/Miranda's people have a habit of putting out press releases like this. It may well be true and Kessler is looking for an easy fight in Denmark before he goes in with somebody good again but more likely Miranda is just one of several people he's negotiating with and they may well still fight next. Or Kessler might not be ready to go back into training yet. I don't think he'd be worried about fighting Miranda.

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    Default Re: Kessler scared of Pantera?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Miranda/Miranda's people have a habit of putting out press releases like this. It may well be true and Kessler is looking for an easy fight in Denmark before he goes in with somebody good again but more likely Miranda is just one of several people he's negotiating with and they may well still fight next. Or Kessler might not be ready to go back into training yet. I don't think he'd be worried about fighting Miranda.
    Have some rep, I agree with that completely. Whatever the reason that Kessler didn't accept this fight, I can't possibly see it as him being concerned about how dangerous Miranda is or w/e. Kessler would absolutely murder him imo, he couldn't miss with the 1-2 and easily hits hard enough to do what Pavlik did to Edison. If anything it would just be a more precise beatdown, as he's very accurate, a little faster than Kelly, technically better and just as strong, if not powerful. I do respect that Miranda wanted the fight though and put forth an offer. He's definetly good for the sport. I just hope I'm not proven wrong and Kessler signs to fight a no hoper. Can't see why he'd want a confidence builder as he did very well for himself against Calzaghe even taking the 12th strong.

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    Default Re: Kessler scared of Pantera?

    I'd like to see a Kessler response,this is all rather one sided. Is there any fighter out there Pantera won't call out lol. A real warrior:

    Wants Pavlik rematch

    Wants Taylor from beef at 160

    Wants Kessler

    Wants Pascal

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    Default Re: Kessler scared of Pantera?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo View Post
    I'd like to see a Kessler response,this is all rather one sided. Is there any fighter out there Pantera won't call out lol. A real warrior:

    Wants Pavlik rematch

    Wants Taylor from beef at 160

    Wants Kessler

    Wants Pascal
    Hehe yeah gotta love it. He wants a piece of everyone.

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    Default Re: Kessler scared of Pantera?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo View Post
    I'd like to see a Kessler response,this is all rather one sided. Is there any fighter out there Pantera won't call out lol. A real warrior:

    Wants Pavlik rematch

    Wants Taylor from beef at 160

    Wants Kessler

    Wants Pascal
    And just a week ago he told Abraham to come to America and meet him at 165lbs so he could finish the job the ref wouldnt let him do in Germany!
    (and for the record, he doesnt really want the Pascal fight. It is a fight the promoters were trying to push)

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    Default Re: Kessler scared of Pantera?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo View Post
    I'd like to see a Kessler response,this is all rather one sided.
    His promoter put out a press release yesterday. Title is "Miranda is one of the options", and the main point in the press release is that there have been contacts among the camps, and that Palle has been talking to HBO about the fight. Also they're saying Kessler wouldnt mind taking the fight for the right amount of money, but that there is also other options in consideration at this point.

    If interested it can be read here, although in Danish. Bear in mind that the truth is probably somewhere in between the various biased press releases...

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