Fight Night 4 - A Fan's Dream -

[Shamrock]

I love the idea of making the career mode more indepth - almost a Boxing Manager type scenario as long as they don't neglect the game play because I feel there are improvements that can be made there too.

Get rid of the parry it's so unrealistic (and I say that as someone who can use it quite well in the game).

There area lot of fighters that could be included but I guess it's down to cost that they are not there...

[El Kabong]

I like Lucky_13's ideas about injuries, the referee, watching other fighters, and contract negotions.....I do think dying in the game shouldn't be available though.

Here are my ideas

* Make the game tougher...I can KO anyone WITHOUT TRYING! The game is too easy and it's waaaaaay too easy to KO someone. I love KO's but decisions are a part of the game and a HUGE part at that.

* More realistic knockdowns and knockouts...shaking like a guy who has been hit by lightening isn't how people are KO'd! Fighters are KO'd or knocked down because they are out of position, are countered, are set up with punches, and are just plain over powered or over matched in speed. If you hit someone with a haymaker then they will go down or at least be stunned and also if the fighter throws a haymaker then the other guy usually sees it coming and can counter....normal punches KO fighters more than haymakers in the real life sport. Fighters are KO'd these ways: KTFO - out cold, eyes closed, good night sweetheart Floyd Patterson vs Ingemar Johanssen II, KO'd Silly - They flop and fall around the ring and can't help it Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick, Stamina TKO #1 - they can't punch back they ran out of gas Wlad Klitschko vs Ross Purrity/David Haye vs Carl Thompson, Stamina TKO #2 - they have taken too many shots and can not physically fight back Gerald McClellan vs Nigel Benn, Stunned KO/TKO #1- A fighter gets rocked and then is finished off with a flurry of punches Ray Mercer vs Tommy Morrison, Stunned KO #2 - A fighter gets rocked one time and then is taken out with one thunderous blow Shannon Briggs vs Sergei Lyakhovich, Bodyshot KO - A fighter is hit to the body, has a delayed reaction and drops down to the canvas either on a knee or face first De la Hoya vs Hopkins/RJJ vs Vigril Hill/Ricky Hatton vs Jose Luis Castillo.

* Create your stance...sure they gave you choices for stance and punching type in FNR3 but what difference did it make? NONE! You should be able to make your own stance and this will affect your style and affect how you fight other fighters....your footwork needs to be more a part of the game. If anyone has played Tiger Woods Golf then you know what I am talking about here....posture and guard being created by the user would be AWESOME and it would make other fighters styles seem more different as well.

* Individual punch attributes...overall power and speed are good but they also leave the strategy out of the ring when the attributes are this general. Lennox Lewis had a hell of a right cross and upper cut but his other punches were not on the same level as that...those were his bread and butter shots, same with Tyson and his left hook, uppercuts, and overhand right. Those individual punches should be given attributes of: speed, power, and accuracy. Therefore you can use punch X to set up punch Y and boom strategy has entered the game!

* More emphasis on Ring Generalship and Defense!

[RP33]

I like Lucky_13's ideas about injuries, the referee, watching other fighters, and contract negotions.....I do think dying in the game shouldn't be available though.

Here are my ideas

* Make the game tougher...I can KO anyone WITHOUT TRYING! The game is too easy and it's waaaaaay too easy to KO someone. I love KO's but decisions are a part of the game and a HUGE part at that.

* More realistic knockdowns and knockouts...shaking like a guy who has been hit by lightening isn't how people are KO'd! Fighters are KO'd or knocked down because they are out of position, are countered, are set up with punches, and are just plain over powered or over matched in speed. If you hit someone with a haymaker then they will go down or at least be stunned and also if the fighter throws a haymaker then the other guy usually sees it coming and can counter....normal punches KO fighters more than haymakers in the real life sport. Fighters are KO'd these ways: KTFO - out cold, eyes closed, good night sweetheart Floyd Patterson vs Ingemar Johanssen II, KO'd Silly - They flop and fall around the ring and can't help it Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick, Stamina TKO #1 - they can't punch back they ran out of gas Wlad Klitschko vs Ross Purrity/David Haye vs Carl Thompson, Stamina TKO #2 - they have taken too many shots and can not physically fight back Gerald McClellan vs Nigel Benn, Stunned KO/TKO #1- A fighter gets rocked and then is finished off with a flurry of punches Ray Mercer vs Tommy Morrison, Stunned KO #2 - A fighter gets rocked one time and then is taken out with one thunderous blow Shannon Briggs vs Sergei Lyakhovich, Bodyshot KO - A fighter is hit to the body, has a delayed reaction and drops down to the canvas either on a knee or face first De la Hoya vs Hopkins/RJJ vs Vigril Hill/Ricky Hatton vs Jose Luis Castillo.

* Create your stance...sure they gave you choices for stance and punching type in FNR3 but what difference did it make? NONE! You should be able to make your own stance and this will affect your style and affect how you fight other fighters....your footwork needs to be more a part of the game. If anyone has played Tiger Woods Golf then you know what I am talking about here....posture and guard being created by the user would be AWESOME and it would make other fighters styles seem more different as well.

* Individual punch attributes...overall power and speed are good but they also leave the strategy out of the ring when the attributes are this general. Lennox Lewis had a hell of a right cross and upper cut but his other punches were not on the same level as that...those were his bread and butter shots, same with Tyson and his left hook, uppercuts, and overhand right. Those individual punches should be given attributes of: speed, power, and accuracy. Therefore you can use punch X to set up punch Y and boom strategy has entered the game!

* More emphasis on Ring Generalship and Defense!

To generalize, i agree..

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM in all of the fight nights, is how much you can hit a person, and how long it takes to knock them down/out.. VERY unrealistic.. If it was more realistic, you'd have so much more intensity between you and your friend cause every punch would count..


think of it, if you've ever played with your friends, the times you get at the edge of your seat is when you're in that 'zone' where you are vulnerable to get knocked down.. well if the whole fight (if you're using a power puncher) is like that then it would be intense!

[El Kabong]

A momentum meter thing would be a nice addition...all other EA sports games have stuff like that.

And it can shift by the fighter who is down: landing a haymaker, countering effectively, winning a round by a large margin, or causing a knockdown.

It would be pretty cool I think

[yvonne]

Hi,im a big fan of the FIGHT NIGHTS series!I was hooked from the first addition(FIGHT NIGHT ROUND1) on the old Xbox and i think that was one of the best ones out in the series so far.The second one(FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 2)had new additions from the first game,in which you could move around the ring while you've got your guard is still up.But i was'nt impressed with the American commentator voiceover...a bit frustrating at times.The commentator from the first game was best i thought!I love the graphics on the FIGHT NIGHT ROUND3 on the PS3.The IN THE RING mode is a great addition which only the PS3 owners can appreciate!!I really look forward to the FNR4 to be released soon i HOPE that there put more new features in the training mode e.g,Skipping,Jogging,Speed ball,Floor to Ceiling ball,Sit ups,Medicine ball.

[El Kabong]

OK I thought some more and how about these:

* More Venues in different areas - if you think about it all they would have to do is change the name of the venue all you're going to see as a fighter (before you get to the big time, I'll explain this more later) is the ring.

* Pre-fight hype - sure you want weigh ins and press confrences BUT how about an HBO World Championship Boxing or Boxing After Dark style lead in with a guy like Jim Lampley giving a story of the fighters and talking about the venue (let's say Cesar's Palace, The Superdome, Madison Square Garden, MGM Grand and The Boardwalk etc) and what historic fights have happened there, Harold Lederman giving the rules, and them discussing strategies, the histories of the fighters, strengths and weaknesses, and the ever important tale of the tape and hopefully that would actually mean something in this version.

* Home cooking/Home crowd advantage - If you have more venues then maybe when you fight farther away from home (either where you actually hail from or where you train) you should be booed more if you're young and no one knows you or you're Floyd Mayweather Jr., and if you're a celebrated fighter you should get a big boost from your fans cheering for you...nothing crazy but just lots of cheering and maybe the other fighter is affected negatively or something, being intimidated or whatever. There should also be sheisty decisions and scoring and the announcers should bring it up and argue about it....it's all a part of professional boxing. You should also be able to be a World Superstar like Ali and be cheered wherever you go

* Gyms/Trainers - sure they had gyms in other games and trainers as well but they should put some more stuff in here. Have the REAL gyms in there giving out some free pub for this sport and places where men are molded to be fighters: Kronk, Gleason's, Wild Card, The Poconos, Big Bear, etc. And all of the gyms give you different benefits OR your trainers teach you specific styles of fighting and either be good for you or bad for you and present problems when fighting certain fighters....OR they could be training another fighter who ends up being a rival of yours starting out in sparring or the amatuers. Any way you need current trainers in there and maybe an option to make your own and you can train your own stable of fighters like a Football Manager or something

[bzkfn]

Sign up Buffer or Jimmy Lennon Jr. too. I loved Knockout Kings '99 when we had Mills Lane as a ref and Jimmy doing the intros.

I'd also like introductions to be made while fighters are in the ring. The records should appear on screen (they don't need to be introduced as it would be very hard to change this for every fighter).