Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
Gotta admit it. Oscar's performance impressed me last night. I was hoping for a Mayorga KO, but it wasn't to be. I predicted an Oscar win by UD, by the way.

But before we start nominating Oscar for President, let's keep some perspective. I think it's pretty funny how boxing fans see things the way they WANT to see them. When Tito beat Mayorga, it's because:

1. Mayorga fought a stupid fight.
2. Mayorga is not a true 160-pounder.
3. Tito got lucky.
4. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But now Oscar beats Mayorga, and he's the best fighter in the history of boxing. Stop the presses!! Oscar for sainthood!!

Well, I hate to piss the De la Hoya fans off (again), but.....
Does anyone else see a pattern here? Tito destroys a fighter.... Oscar comes by later and cleans up the scraps. Happened with Vargas, happened with Campas, happened with Mayorga. Oh, I forgot.... Tito KO'd Vargas in 12, but DLH did it in 11. Tito KO'd Mayorga in 8, but DLH did it in 6. That means Oscar must be better, huh?

You know what? Forget about PBF being Oscar's next opponent. I've got a better candidate. How about......... Joppy?!? Or Oba Carr? How about David Reid?

Hey, I know Oscar's fans won't like this, but Oscar can beat PFB and ride off into the sunset on his white horse. But there's one thing he'll never get off his record and will never get payback for:

His loss to Tito in the biggest fight of his life, not in Puerto Rico where he could blame partisan judges, but in Las Vegas, close to his own backyard and in front of thousand of screaming, adoring fans. That thorn will always be sticking into his side. (Heh, heh).
Trinidad never took rematches against fighter who beat him, didn't even pursue it. He is willing to come out of retirement go down to 154 or catch weight for peanuts, to beat a fighter he dominated but won't fight oscar for millions and to exonerate his biggest win from controversy. At least oscar rematched mosley whether u believe he won or lost and also has been calling out trinidad for years. whenever tito loses and is humiliated in a fight he wants no part of that fighter. Objective minds know Oscar won the trinidad fight only eggheads will say Tito won.

by the way Oscar has already fought oba carr, and ppl recognize oscar as a better fighter than tito, not because oscar fought tito's leftovers but because he dominated and embarrased tito, because isn't one-dimensional like tito, and because he never got a one-sided beating like tito (also not once but twice)
I was wondering when you were going to crawl out from under the rock you usually hide under and start spewing your anti-Tito bullsh*t. You've proven time and again to be a serious Oscar "nut hugger." Which is why nothing you say I take seriously. I've sparred with you over Tito-DLH in the past and have no wish to do so again. You want to talk about humiliation? How about Oscar banging the canvas in mock anger (it was actually relief) after a glancing liver shot by Hopkins? At least Tito fought through until the end, TKO'd by the bigger man. And don't forget, Tito has a LEGITIMATE victory at 160 on his record, his KO of Joppy. Not a gift-wrapped present from the judges like Oscar got over Sturm.

Face some facts, dude:

1. The record shows a VICTORY of Tito over Oscar. And it was in Las Vegas, Oscar's backyard. I guess the judges didn't take too kindly to Oscar's running like the bitch from hell. To Oscar's ever-lasting dissapointment, he'll have that memory the rest of his life.

2. Oscar, unlike Tito, has ALWAYS hand-picked his opponents. He fought an over-the-hill Chavez. He fought a shot Vargas. He fought a shot Mayorga.

3. Oscar, unlike Tito, cherishes his Golden Boy image much too much. Tito just enjoyed fighting. Love him or hate him, he always came to fight whoever they put in front of him. Oscar is all about legacy. Tito was all about the sheer joy of fighting.

So get off my case chami-boy.
you have a child like attitude so let me educate you what humiliation is
it is not humiliation if you get caught in boxing by a shot. it is humiliation if you get beat for round after round and you take the beating and cannot adapt. that is humiliation my delusional friend. I will be the first to say oscar didn't belong in 160 pounds and his win over sturm is very questionable. but you my friend are contradicting yourself. you ask me to face the fact about the controversial outcome, that trinidad has a W over oscar on his record, and then you speculate on how oscar got a gift decision over sturm. so if you are going to ask me to face the facts about the trinidad win then I will be entitled to ask you to face the facts about the sturm win.

Also this is prizefighting not streetfighting where fighters fight just for the joy, in boxing every fight is going to be a part of history. every real fighter is always concerned about their legacy but I guess since it never crossed tito's mind coz he never to rematches to redeem himself, the same rule applies to his fans as well.

Oscar fought whoever was availabel to him at 140pounds chavez was the best opponent for him at the time. at 147 whitaker was the best opponent available to him, then it was quartey, then it was trinidad and when he moved up to jr middlewight it was vargasand at middleweight it was hopkins. Somehow I fail to understand how this a resume of a fighter who picks easy opponents to beat.

for the record I am not being ignorant, start making some sense in your post and I will be off your case