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    Default Re: See Haye Call Out Wlad...

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Sorry but i don't see the comparison, Tua was looking for one big left hook all night. He done nothing else plus he is a dwarf for a Heavyweight, Haye is quicker than Tua and has better boxing skills than Tua had. Oh yea and i just remembered one last thing Majesty, Wladimir is no Lennox Lewis

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    Can't see why a 3 belt holder at Crusierweight gets dissed for calling out the No.1 Heavyweight? What's that about.

    A fighter shows ambition and confidence in his own ability but still some don't like it.

    Maybe their worried that there boy will get sparked once again.

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    I would love to see Haye get his chance to fight Wlad.. But I can't see him winning aside from giving him a small punchers chance.. Whoever said if Wlad can't KO a fat plodder like Sultan he won't do Haye should really rethink that imo.. Look at the way Sultan fought Wlad, he was backing up using the ring and trying to counter the entire time, and never got past the jab. What's to suggest that Haye would addopt a similar tactic, especially being an even smaller man with a questionable beard and stamina? I think people are severly underrating how accurate Wlad's jab is, as well as the effect even it would have on Haye's jaw. Hayes only chance imo would be to go out and try to bumrush Wlad early, but even in doing that he'd give Wlad an oppourtunity to open up. He'd also have to risk getting caught on the way in. I could actually see it being a good fight should Haye be succesful in an early assault.. But if he even considers waiting for his spot and lets Wlad get going, I don't think he'll fair well at all. Still perhaps the most exciting potential HW fight going though. I don't think Peter will do any better against Wlad, I really disagree that he's a much improved fighter.. Maybe slightly, but he's still very average in most departments imo. Wlad also should be a lot more confident if they fight again as he shook off a lot of cobwebs over the 12 when they fought and only realized late that he could hurt Peter easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob View Post
    Can't see why a 3 belt holder at Crusierweight gets dissed for calling out the No.1 Heavyweight? What's that about.

    A fighter shows ambition and confidence in his own ability but still some don't like it.

    Maybe their worried that there boy will get sparked once again.
    People aren't dissing David Haye, we all acknowledge he is a very skillful fighter, but to say that in spite of all his weaknesses that he will beat a guy who is 6'6 and one of the most technically sound heavyweights we've ever seen is pushing it. Haye might do well against a lot of the guys in the heavywieght division, but he is exactly the type of fighter that Wladimir wouldn't have tons of troubles with, He can't seem to fight with his hands up, and Wladimir has had no trouble landing on faster, better defensive fighters than Haye, and people talk about Haye's power when they are forgetting that Wladimir is maybe the hardest puncher in the heavyweight division and also one of the hardest punchers in the sport. ONe more thing to add to this is that Wladimir's jab nullifies speed, and the heavier the weightclass the less footspeed, punch output, stamina, and the heavier punches(jabs) the harder it is to overcome the height and reach differential.

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    Wow people get delusional so quickly, especially the Brits... First they were saying Hatton would beat Floyd, by KO no less, and now they are saying Haye who is largely unproven at heavyweight will beat the best man in the class since Lennox Lewis. Sure Haye is pretty fast, he has a lot of power, but Ibrigamov was pretty fast as well, and he couldn't land anything. One more problem since just watching the Mormeck-Haye fight is I noticed how open he is for that right hand whereas Wladimir is hard to hit with any punch. Even if you are considering the first man who lands a good punch wins, it has to be Wladimir, he has the longer reach(with his height), he has the same arsenal and accuracy, he hasn't had trouble landing on anyone, and he has much better defense, when was the last time he has been hit hard? Probably against Sanders, and since then he has foughten Chris Byrd, Samuel Peter, Calvin Brock, noname Ray Austin, and Ibrigamov, but my point is he's foughten some of the best prospects (Peter, Brock, Ibrigamov) and he has easily beaten them all, and they all had good punching power if not great in Peter's case, and Ibrigamov was probably the fastest prospect of the heavyweights before David Haye moved up, but I still think they are pretty similar in speed.

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    Default Re: See Haye Call Out Wlad...

    i would like to see this fight, haye has the power to win

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    Default Re: See Haye Call Out Wlad...

    I don't understand why people suddenly think Wladimir can't KO anyone any more....I seem to remember the same being thought of Lennox Lewis.


    David Haye might be an awesome heavyweight and then again he might not. He is not a proven entity in the heavyweight division and for every Evander Holyfield there are two guys who don't make it big in the division.


    The problem with Sultan was that he got really small and being a southpaw he waited for Wlad to miss a right cross so he could counter.....David Haye has handspeed and power(which hasn't been proven at heavyweight) but he's not a southpaw and he too has stamina issues and it ain't like he's got the best defense ever either.

    I sincerly hope this fight is a big one in the future but of course I don't see Wladimir losing to Haye and I do see Wlad KO-ing Haye

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