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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Judah could beat a lot of people. That's always been the case, he could have beat pretty much everyone he's stepped in the ring with outside of Mayweather and you'll find some who will even argue that.

    I will nitpick a little though. I don't think Judah gets worn down physically. He gets worn down mentally. By no means did Baldomir beat the will out of Judah, he just stuck around. If you stick around with Judah then chances are Zab is going to lose his focus. It's a mental thing not a physical thing so I don't think the particular style of Mosley matters in that regard.

    I think we're going to see a typical Zab Judah fight. Flashes of positive work through 6 rounds, but failure to be persistent will do him in again. I think Mosley takes a decision.
    You make good points but I disagree about Zab not getting worn down physically. He does get worn down physically, as his punch output drops every round. He's just not built for going deep into fights. True, he's a mental midget but that's not the sole reason for his numerous losses. But to the subject at hand, Zab doesn't stand a chance against Shane.

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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    I shouldn't have said that he doesn't wear down physically because obviously he does. But that's not the sole reason he has lost all of his fights and there have been cases where he hasn't been damaged much at all over the first half of a fight and then wears down because of that mental dwarfism you talked about. I definitely wouldn't bet on Judah not wearing down in this fight just because Mosley doesn't have a punishing style.

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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    I agree, that's mainly why I don't think he has a chance, because Shane isn't gonna be taken out early by anyone, and Zab is hardly the type to close the show strong.

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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    Zab COULD beat a lot of people.......unfortunatly for him and his guys he usually doesn't. For one reason or another against the better opposition zab fights great for moments but never for enough of a fight to actually win. I think the same happens when he meets mosely
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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    Betting on Zab against true professional fighters is usually a bad idea. He'll find a way to lose. And the next fight he'll still be a live dog, and the next one and the next one and the next one, someday Zab is going to focus and reach his potential, I just know it.

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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    Baldimor beat Judah in his prime and since then Judahs only been beaten around the ring by every guy he's faced . Whatever he has left wont be enough to beat Mosley . No way !

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    Quote Originally Posted by toogood4u View Post
    tell mr. judah to freakin get his mind straight in order for him to win.

    he messed up his career bad and he could of have made millions.

    if he didnt screw with mayweather he probably wouldnt of lost to baldomir, or even fight mayweather himself.

    fortunately when he won his titles hestill has alot of loyal fans that love him so therefore hes still going to make millions for a couple of years (if he gets ko by shane its gg)
    No way would Judah ever beat Mayweather, Mayweather is superior to Judah in mostly every department. Mayweather just changed his tactic's to beat Judah where as Judah couldn't adjust and was totally out boxed. Judah is fast and talented but he would have never have beaten Kostya Tsyzu for the simple reason that timing beats speed and Tszyu's excellent timing would always trump Judah's speed all the time and with Judah lack of defense and suspect chin Tszyu always beats him. And Mayweather is just better than Judah in every department except for power, there speed is about even but other than that Mayweather trumps Judah in every other attribute. I don't even think he could of beat Cotto either, Judah's career couldn't have been that much better he was just beaten by superior boxers, the only boxer he could of beat was Baldomir other than that his career goes about the same way even if he had better mentality or a different trainer IMO.
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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo View Post
    I don't know why,I just have a feeling Zab will do well v Shane. I think against guys that keep coming,Zab gasses(Baldo,Cotto and Floyd even came straight down the pipe) but Shane is not that kind of fighter:he's more stationary,doesn't move back or forward too much. This will give Zab a chance in this fight imo. I also think he has new coaches(still has Yoel but Floyd Senior has been adeed too) who are working on his stamina,which is a plus. I'm not 100% he'll win but I think it's going to be a close fight. I also think Shane lost a step v Miguel in terms of speed.

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    Zab at his delusional best. Read the article,it's interesting.
    1st the PongsaShit thread, now this.
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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    LOL,don't worry Mike,my head is on straight. I just think I saw Shane age a little in the Cotto fight. Cotto's handspeed is excellent,always has been but I would never have imagined it to be on par with Shane's!!! And Zab's(as much as I hate to admit it) is quicker than both. I think Judah will cause Shane alot of problems,it's a style thing

    And I also think I've been hanging around with Sal too long! That guys craziness is rubbing off on me.

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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo View Post
    LOL,don't worry Mike,my head is on straight. I just think I saw Shane age a little in the Cotto fight. Cotto's handspeed is excellent,always has been but I would never have imagined it to be on par with Shane's!!! And Zab's(as much as I hate to admit it) is quicker than both. I think Judah will cause Shane alot of problems,it's a style thing

    And I also think I've been hanging around with Sal too long! That guys craziness is rubbing off on me.
    its that same craziness that said Quintana would dominate Williams
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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    its that same craziness that said Quintana would dominate Williams
    No, that was a completely different fight. The logic doesn't apply.

    I agree with what OumaFan said. It's true. A bet in favor of Zab against a real fighter is never a good bet.

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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    I actually rate Collazo as a more awkward southpaw than Judah and Sugar managed him jut fine.

    Additionally, Collazo broke his hand on Mosely when they fought and not surprisingly, Mosely went nowhere. The same will occur, not in that I expect Judah to break his hand, but I expect him to land some big shots only for Shane to keep coming on and grinding him down.
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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    its a possibility but i say mosley UD

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    I actually rate Collazo as a more awkward southpaw than Judah and Sugar managed him jut fine.

    Additionally, Collazo broke his hand on Mosely when they fought and not surprisingly, Mosely went nowhere. The same will occur, not in that I expect Judah to break his hand, but I expect him to land some big shots only for Shane to keep coming on and grinding him down.
    I agree i don't see Mosley having much trouble with Judah at all. Judah can't KO Mosley, and as soon as Mosley starts using effective pressure on Judah he will lower Judah's output and then thats when he will start to really hurt Judah and possibly stop him late IMO.

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    Default Re: Zab Judah could beat Shane imo

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I agree i don't see Mosley having much trouble with Judah at all. Judah can't KO Mosley, and as soon as Mosley starts using effective pressure on Judah he will lower Judah's output and then thats when he will start to really hurt Judah and possibly stop him late IMO.
    I most definitely agree.
    Shane looked incredibly strong against Cotto and I only gave that fight to Cotto by one round.
    The usual Zab i suspect. Good three four rounds and then gets disheartened when Mosely is still there willing to trade and take in order to land.
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