Hype of Danny William, Hype of Audley harrison and now Hype of David Haye?

[El Kabong]

No he can't.

He can....if he wins 10-20 more fights vs the best this division has to offer then he's up there with them.

1. Joe Louis
2. Rocky Marciano
3. Muhamad Ali
4. George Foreman
5. Jack Johnson
6. Larry Holmes
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Ezzard Charles
9. Sonny Liston
10. Joe Walcott
11. Floyd Patterson
12. Evander Holyfield
13. Lennox Lewis
14. Gene Tunney
15. Mike Tyson
16. Riddick Bowe
17. James J. Braddock
18. Max Baer
19. Max Schmelling
20. Ingemar Johanssen

Show me yours

[DaxxKahn]

He can....if he wins 10-20 more fights vs the best this division has to offer then he's up there with them.

1. Joe Louis
2. Rocky Marciano
3. Muhamad Ali
4. George Foreman
5. Jack Johnson
6. Larry Holmes
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Ezzard Charles
9. Sonny Liston
10. Joe Walcott
11. Floyd Patterson
12. Evander Holyfield
13. Lennox Lewis
14. Gene Tunney
15. Mike Tyson
16. Riddick Bowe
17. James J. Braddock
18. Max Baer
19. Max Schmelling
20. Ingemar Johanssen

Show me yours

Lyle you kow I usually agree with you on things but...Lennox at 13!!!!!....I usually rate Lennox 4th though I understand many do not agree but He deserves a top 10 no matter hos you look at it...You have Liston at 9 and the only defense he made of the title was his rematch with Patterson

[El Kabong]

And your list is where?

[DaxxKahn]

And your list is where?

1.Ali

2. Louis

3. Marciano

4. Lewis

5. Foreman

6. Holmes

7. Johnson

8. Dempsey

9. Tunney

10. Holyfield

11. Patterson

12. Tyson

13. Walcott

14. Frazier

15. Charles

16. Bowe

17. Schmelling

18. Braddock

19. Baer

[WelshDevilRob]

THE TOP 20 HEAVYWEIGHTS OF ALL TIME

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. George Foreman
5. Larry Holmes
6. Jack Dempsey
7. Sonny Liston
8. Jim Jeffries
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Mike Tyson
11. Rocky Marciano
12. Joe Frazier
13. Riddick Bowe
14. Evander Holyfield
15. Sam Langford
16. Gene Tunney
17. James J. Corbett
18. Ezzard Charles
19. Jersey Joe Walcott
20. Max Schmeling

by historian Monte D. Cox

My Top 10
1.Lennox Lewis
2.Muhammad Ali
3.George Foreman
4.Jack Johnson
5.Larry Holmes
6.Joe Louis
7.Sonny Liston
8.Joe Frazier
9.Mike Tyson
10.Ike Ibeabuchi

[El Kabong]

Tunney made two title defenses and retired...an old Dempsey is the only true name on his record at heavyweight

Lewis got sparked out by Rahman in his prime (or at the tail end of it)

Foreman was not only great in his first career but also in his second run at his career

Holyfield didn't have the consistency to be rated in the top 10

[DaxxKahn]

Tunney made two title defenses and retired...an old Dempsey is the only true name on his record at heavyweight

Lewis got sparked out by Rahman in his prime (or at the tail end of it)

Foreman was not only great in his first career but also in his second run at his career

Holyfield didn't have the consistency to be rated in the top 10

Other then Marciano name a HW who has not been beaten during their best years?.....Louis was starched by Schmelling before he won the title..Lewis also came back and made easy work Rahman in the rematch, also he did not train 3 weeks before the fight and was spending late nights filming Oceans 11.....It was more the fact Lennox gassed out and was prime at the time of the KO

Holyfield was at or near the top for the better part of a decade....From 1990-2000 he was part of 13 title fights.....The only men to beat him in his prim were Bowe and Lewis...Two top 20 ATG hwts. He was only KO'd twice in 9 losses...By Toney way past his better years and a much Bigger Prime Bowe...He also had one of the Best HW triligies with Bowe....He won the title what 4 times I think....Pretty damn impressive IMO


Agreed on Foreman he was great both runs

[El Kabong]

Ezzard Charles and Joe Walcott had to win the title between reigns of JOE LOUIS and ROCKY MARCIANO ....they had some good fights between themselves as well.

[Wayne]

Holyfield was at or near the top for the better part of a decade....From 1990-2000 he was part of 13 title fights.....The only men to beat him in his prim were Bowe and Lewis...Two top 20 ATG hwts. He was only KO'd twice in 9 losses...By Toney way past his better years and a much Bigger Prime Bowe...He also had one of the Best HW triligies with Bowe.

Also as a side note in regard to one of the two Holyfield KOs. The first one against Bowe happened more so because of Holyfield's physical issues. If I remember correctly he'd been diagnosed with Hep A and his training had been interrupted because he'd caught the flu a few weeks before the fight. He was easily outpointing a fat, unmotivated Bowe and instantly ran out of steam in the 2nd or 3rd. When he went down for the last time he was throwing HUGE haymakers, trying to rip Bowe's head off before he collapsed. Bowe didn't knock him out, Holyfield knocked himself out.

Against James Toney, well, that was just a spanking. No way around that.