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    Default Re: JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ VS MANNY PACQUIAO II

    Quote Originally Posted by itouchpinoy View Post
    Who do you think will win? I'll go for Manny Pacquiao! TKO 8 rd

    Whats your prediction?

    [img width=700 height=195]http://fc.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2008/027/4/8/JUAN_MARQUEZ_VS_MANNY_PACQUIAO_by_iTouchPinoy.png[/img]

    pacquaio...

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    Default Re: JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ VS MANNY PACQUIAO II

    OK just cleaned up this thread... keep it clean because i will not tolarate crap posted about mexicans or philopinos.

    first and only warning i will be giving on this.

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    No racial stuff guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    OK just cleaned up this thread... keep it clean because i will not tolarate crap posted about mexicans or philopinos.

    first and only warning i will be giving on this.
    Thank you Saddo.

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    To my brother Julius and Bruce,

    I guess next time ATB offended us racially, all we have to do is report it to Saddo and DO NOT RETALIATE WITH RACIAL OFFENSE.

    Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    To my brother Julius and Bruce,

    I guess next time ATB offended us racially, all we have to do is report it to Saddo and DO NOT RETALIATE WITH RACIAL OFFENSE.

    Peace.
    Bro,
    I haven't retaliated him with racial offense. It's not in my nature to involve race in any dispute. That's why I was very much offended with his slander on Filipinas.

    I do not disclaim, however, of giving him negative reps.... I will continue to do so until he takes back what he has said against Filipinas.

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    his obviously a moron that deserves to have the ignorant beaten out of him. its best to just let him be in his own world, ignore him instead of getting involve and getting into trouble because this guys whole objection here is to piss off filipino fans.

    Im sure his going to cry when pac retires another one of his favorite fighter, now I really want pac to beat the fwock out of marquez. Im damn sure pac ain't letting marquez pull of another hodini escape from him again. Jmm is finish and so will this clown once pac has won again. This guy just comes on everytime pacs fight is closing in. All he does is try to talk shyt about pac but disapears when pac puts on another beating on the hopeless oppenents this clown rides on.

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    I got this comment from one of Pacland's posters. I thought I should share it here coz it's very interesting.

    Its been customary in this site to ridicule or belittle Juan Manuel Marquez. I think I own a good portion of those posts that ignores his technical prowess. But that is not to say that I'm totally ignorant of what he's capable of . I have been watching him for some time now, and he's actually quite good LOL. I love this sport and its just me, I am like that ... its about "knowing the enemy" thingy. I hope I'm making sense to you, fellow Paclanders.

    Here are my humble observations (which you would have probably noticed too). I feel that it must be acknowledged as we must acknowledge the weapons of the other guy. These are things that JMM did in that fight that started the shifting of the momentum to his favor.


    OBSERVATION NUMBER 1: JMM's PARRYING

    I hoped Manny have found a way get around this. This is what JMM did to neutralize Manny's powerful Straight Left. Its just a simple slapping of the oncoming punch. He also backed up a little to make it fall short.

    Maybe Manny must mix his attack with hooks with the intention to hit the side of his face. This will open up his tight defense of putting his arms in front of his face. When JMM is on this defensive stance, its harder to connect with that Straight Left especially when your leading your combo with that punch. Majority of those Straight Left was parryed. When is a good time to launch the Straight Left? ... that question brings me to my next observation.


    OBSERVATION NUMBER 2: JMM's WIDE HOOKS




    Have you guys notice this attack of his? ... Does this look like a good time to throw that Straight Left? I say this is the "Best Time" to launch a blitzing Straight Left. These Wide Hooks have scored so many points in JMM's favor in the first fight because most of the time Manny is caught guessing which of his hands is going to land, forgetting to move out of the way. I hope to see Manny staying in front of him and when JMM starts spreading his arms like that, instead of guessing, why not keep a light and alert foot to propel the poweful Left ... or Right (since its closer and within striking distance to JMM's face). JMM is a tad slower than before that's why its doable ... just one time Manny Plant a Left on his jaw and bring him down.


    OBSERVATION NUMBER 3: JMM IS PRONE TO GET HIT BY A LEFT AFTER BREAKOFF





    I don't know if this is some technical flaw in Nacho's training because his brother is also the same (watch the first two fights of Vazquez-Marquez). When fighting JMM in the inside, Barrera connects well with a Left. JMM seems to rise from close exchanges with his guard down (see video). So why not hit him with a Left and lookie here ... our boy has a strong Left


    That's all about his style.

    Now I also have a couple of things that I wanted Manny (our boy this time) to employ Its about delivering that Straight Left. As we all know, that is our boy's moneymaker. It must be delivered right (which I know he will). I don't want a repeat of the first fight where he became too predictable with it. He was using the old one-two (right jab, straight left) and JMM was able to read it well. Manny must mix it up to avoid being one-dimensional (unless he was able to hurt him, then unleash the Left).

    I'm bringing up this clip because I like what he did on his 3rd fight with Morales. He was attacking and moving from one place to another. This gave Manny angles that Morales is not ready to defend yet. He was blasting down (hitting his breadbasket) and up his body. The result - the Straight Left was so elusive Morales gets caught with it so many times. It will work with JMM as well.







    In avoiding JMM's punches, he must do what Jaca did - leaning back. Jaca did a good job evading JMM's punches by leaning. That is why he lasted the way he did. But he just didn't have the firepower to hurt JMM.



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    Default Re: JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ VS MANNY PACQUIAO II

    nice observation.In addition Manny will be able to connect that vicious straight left if he does the same thing he did during the first round of their first encounter. I know Manny knows what to do now.

    Attack and attack . He should aim for a KO in the early rounds.If it goes the distance, he will have a problem winning this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Thank you Saddo.

    Yes, thank you ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    his obviously a moron that deserves to have the ignorant beaten out of him. its best to just let him be in his own world, ignore him instead of getting involve and getting into trouble because this guys whole objection here is to piss off filipino fans.

    Im sure his going to cry when pac retires another one of his favorite fighter, now I really want pac to beat the fwock out of marquez. Im damn sure pac ain't letting marquez pull of another hodini escape from him again. Jmm is finish and so will this clown once pac has won again. This guy just comes on everytime pacs fight is closing in. All he does is try to talk shyt about pac but disapears when pac puts on another beating on the hopeless oppenents this clown rides on.
    Wow you killed the word "his" ( should be he's ) You are definitely not a spelling Bee ! Another of my Favorite boxers ? Hmm ... Solis, MAB, EM and Larios are not my favorite boxers. I like and respect JMM but he is also not my favorite boxer either. I actually like Pac's style who can help it, comes to fight and is so humble. My problem is with all the Pac Huggers and the thirst to see how much sh%t Pac huggers will talk when he loses a fight. So far it has been a 1 way road ..... See what I am talking about JMM does a miraculous job to get back into a fight after 3 knockdowns with his face beat up and you refuse to give the man credit for this incredible feat. Instead you call it a Houdini act. You are no different than the Pac Huggers on Pacland yet you want to claim you are a boxing enthusiast. A hypocrite is very visible even in the form of text.

    ""The secret lies in our minds and the time that binds" - March 15th may we view a classic bout.
    Last edited by Addicted to_boxing; 03-13-2008 at 08:13 AM. Reason: edit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    I got this comment from one of Pacland's posters. I thought I should share it here coz it's very interesting.

    Its been customary in this site to ridicule or belittle Juan Manuel Marquez. I think I own a good portion of those posts that ignores his technical prowess. But that is not to say that I'm totally ignorant of what he's capable of . I have been watching him for some time now, and he's actually quite good LOL. I love this sport and its just me, I am like that ... its about "knowing the enemy" thingy. I hope I'm making sense to you, fellow Paclanders.

    Here are my humble observations (which you would have probably noticed too). I feel that it must be acknowledged as we must acknowledge the weapons of the other guy. These are things that JMM did in that fight that started the shifting of the momentum to his favor.


    OBSERVATION NUMBER 1: JMM's PARRYING

    I hoped Manny have found a way get around this. This is what JMM did to neutralize Manny's powerful Straight Left. Its just a simple slapping of the oncoming punch. He also backed up a little to make it fall short.

    Maybe Manny must mix his attack with hooks with the intention to hit the side of his face. This will open up his tight defense of putting his arms in front of his face. When JMM is on this defensive stance, its harder to connect with that Straight Left especially when your leading your combo with that punch. Majority of those Straight Left was parryed. When is a good time to launch the Straight Left? ... that question brings me to my next observation.


    OBSERVATION NUMBER 2: JMM's WIDE HOOKS




    Have you guys notice this attack of his? ... Does this look like a good time to throw that Straight Left? I say this is the "Best Time" to launch a blitzing Straight Left. These Wide Hooks have scored so many points in JMM's favor in the first fight because most of the time Manny is caught guessing which of his hands is going to land, forgetting to move out of the way. I hope to see Manny staying in front of him and when JMM starts spreading his arms like that, instead of guessing, why not keep a light and alert foot to propel the poweful Left ... or Right (since its closer and within striking distance to JMM's face). JMM is a tad slower than before that's why its doable ... just one time Manny Plant a Left on his jaw and bring him down.


    OBSERVATION NUMBER 3: JMM IS PRONE TO GET HIT BY A LEFT AFTER BREAKOFF





    I don't know if this is some technical flaw in Nacho's training because his brother is also the same (watch the first two fights of Vazquez-Marquez). When fighting JMM in the inside, Barrera connects well with a Left. JMM seems to rise from close exchanges with his guard down (see video). So why not hit him with a Left and lookie here ... our boy has a strong Left


    That's all about his style.

    Now I also have a couple of things that I wanted Manny (our boy this time) to employ Its about delivering that Straight Left. As we all know, that is our boy's moneymaker. It must be delivered right (which I know he will). I don't want a repeat of the first fight where he became too predictable with it. He was using the old one-two (right jab, straight left) and JMM was able to read it well. Manny must mix it up to avoid being one-dimensional (unless he was able to hurt him, then unleash the Left).

    I'm bringing up this clip because I like what he did on his 3rd fight with Morales. He was attacking and moving from one place to another. This gave Manny angles that Morales is not ready to defend yet. He was blasting down (hitting his breadbasket) and up his body. The result - the Straight Left was so elusive Morales gets caught with it so many times. It will work with JMM as well.







    In avoiding JMM's punches, he must do what Jaca did - leaning back. Jaca did a good job evading JMM's punches by leaning. That is why he lasted the way he did. But he just didn't have the firepower to hurt JMM.


    This is actually a very very good posting but a similar article can be written about Pac's technical shortcomings in the ring. There are probably twice as many errors, but that sweet left of his makes up for it. I am not sure why you say that I disappear after Pac wins, this is a supreme fallacy!

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    Macho Pacman!

    Pukito Dinamita!


    Manny Pacquiao! Oh my god JMM is in big trouble. hehehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by itouchpinoy View Post


    Holy crud!

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    Golden Boy Promotions, Inc. (GBP) has officially announced that tickets for "The Dream Match" welterweight super bout between Manny Pacquiao and Oscar de Hoya will be sold to fans starting September 24.

    "Tickets to 'The Dream Match' -- the 12-round welterweight super fight between six-division world champion Oscar de la Hoya and boxing's No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter Manny Pacquiao -- will go on sale this Wednesday, September 24 at 1 p.m. ET / 10 a.m. PT," GBP told abs-cbnNEWS.com in an e-mail Saturday.

    The e-mail confirmed an earlier message from GBP's Monica Sears that an announcement for tickets for the super bout in Las Vegas' MGM Grand Garden Arena on December 6 will be released later in the week.

    GBP said tickets are priced at $1,500, $1,000, $750, $500, $250, $150, excluding applicable taxes and service charges.

    However, the promotions firm that is also owned by de la Hoya clarified that, "ticket sales are limited to two (2) per person at each price level with a total ticket limit of four (4) per person."

    It said tickets will be available at Ticketmaster's phone service and Web site and at MGM Grand's Web site (Las Vegas - Entertainment - Hotel - Resort - Casinos - Vacation : MGM Grand Hotel & Casino). No tickets will be sold at the fight venue or any other Ticketmaster outlets, it added.

    On September 15, Pacquiao's American promoter, Top Rank , Inc., said it will start selling tickets after September 24 for the $150-$1,500 price range.

    "Tickets will not go on sale before Wednesday, September 24th," the Top Rank Web site said.

    Top Rank clarified that the price categories mentioned are not inclusive of all the seats at the arena.

    "Top Rank will not be receiving all of the price categories due to high demand of this fight," it said.

    The firm said that interested parties may contact the MGM Grand Garden Arena for more information.

    $26,000-seat

    On Tuesday, at least one Internet site started selling tickets for the December 6 blockbuster clash.

    Impulse Tickets (ImpulseTickets.com - #1 Source for Premium Tickets) announced on its Web site that tickets for the Pacquiao-de la Hoya fight card are now on sale. Prices range from $520 each up to $26,250.

    Seats offered for $26,250 do have their perks since these will be nearest to the ring and the action.

    According to the layout of the arena provided by the Internet seller, the lower the price of the ticket, the farther the fan will be from the center and the ring itself.

    How to get hold of tickets

    Fight fans have started looking for ways to get hold of tickets for the December 6 clash between the international boxing superstar and today's best pound-for-pound knockout artist.

    Last week, Manila-based sports analyst and ringside commentator Ronnie Nathanielsz said he received inquiries on where and when tickets to the Pacquiao-de la Hoya fight will go on sale.

    One of those looking for fight tickets was Fil-Am tennis star Cecil Mamiit.

    In an e-mail, Mamiit told Nathanielsz, ā€œI’m in search for some tickets for the fight. I have a group of friends and family planning a trip to see the fight and we really would love to get hold of tickets to make the trip worth it. We are willing to pay a reasonable price.ā€

    Mamiit said he would appreciate the help and suggestions on how he can get hold of tickets for the fight.

    as of 09/20/2008 12:03 PM
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