Miranda vs Kessler - ALMOST A DONE DEAL!

[ICB]

Miranda has never been dominated the way Mayorga was by Trinidad and De la Hoya.
The arguement that Mayorga decides to slug it disguising his boxing skill is also applicable to Miranda.
Should Miranda focus less on his power I belive he can box quite effectively. Although out hustled, the fight with Abraham showed moments of decent boxing form Miranda, as did the blow out of Banks.

Mayorga however struggeled with Fernado Vargas. A way past it Fernado Vargas. If Mayorga could box that competently, he wouldn't have chosen to slug it out with Vargas at a higher weight than he was comfortable as we've all seen Vargas out boxed by both De la Hoya and Mosely.

And you honestly think Miranda wouldn't get dominated by ODLH or Trinidad as well ?? and Miranda was dominated by Pavlik. The fact is Mayorga has had a better career than Miranda has had and i don't think you can say Miranda is a better boxer, there both pretty sloppy offensively and defensively, the only difference is that at least Mayorga held a title and beat Vernon Forrest x2 who was fresh off beating Shane Mosley.

[OumaFan]

Miranda should be just about right for Kessler but it will be interesting to see how he approaches it. Miranda obviously can't fight for shit when he's getting backed up but I'm not sure if that will be Kessler's plan. Either way he should win, just the much better fighter.

[CFH]

Miranda should be just about right for Kessler but it will be interesting to see how he approaches it. Miranda obviously can't fight for shit when he's getting backed up but I'm not sure if that will be Kessler's plan. Either way he should win, just the much better fighter.

I don't think Kessler will try to back up Miranda like Pavlik did, I think it's more likely that he'll just outbox him, set traps, and let Miranda walk into right hands all night.

[GermanHitman]

Does anyone know where the fight is going to take place? I heard Kessler was done boxing... glad to hear that seemingly that is not the case.

[JT Rock]

Its ridiculous in the 1st place to compare Mayorga and Miranda and how the hell they would do against ODLH and Trinidad.. Miranda is 168 lbs for chrise sakes!!!

Forrest beat Shane good the 1st time with a little help from a Head Butt and the 2nd fight was hardly anything that resembles a beating so lets debunk that exaggeration... Mayorga is shiit always has been always will be he is slow and winds his punches up and uses his face as a catchers mitt.. Got a chin from hell though

Miranda was struggling to make 160 and besides Pavlik kicking his ass and backing him up Clearly Edison was drained and lethargic albeit he got tore up like Britneys cooch he was drained.. Miranda is a big strong motherfwocker and 168 suits him perfectly and will give a good account of himself even if he gets outboxed by a technically superior Kessler

[Wayne]

Its ridiculous in the 1st place to compare Mayorga and Miranda and how the hell they would do against ODLH and Trinidad.. Miranda is 168 lbs for chrise sakes!!!

Forrest beat Shane good the 1st time with a little help from a Head Butt and the 2nd fight was hardly anything that resembles a beating so lets debunk that exaggeration... Mayorga is shiit always has been always will be he is slow and winds his punches up and uses his face as a catchers mitt.. Got a chin from hell though

Miranda was struggling to make 160 and besides Pavlik kicking his ass and backing him up Clearly Edison was drained and lethargic albeit he got tore up like Britneys cooch he was drained.. Miranda is a big strong motherfwocker and 168 suits him perfectly and will give a good account of himself even if he gets outboxed by a technically superior Kessler

I think you're a wee bit confused. Nobody was comparing Mayorga or Miranda to ODLH or Trinidad. They were being compared to one another and Mayorga is the one who fought Trinidad and ODLH. You do know Mayorga isn't staying at 168, right? I was calling both of them club fighters, of which Mayorga is the better of the two.

Miranda will give a good accounting of himself until he gets blasted out again by a superior opponent. That crap he said about the L against Pavlik was just that-crap. Notice he didn't call Kelly out to stay at 168 so he could avenge himself. The same thing would happen. The real question is what's Miranda going to say after he gets his head handed to him a 2nd time?

[luvfightgame]

I skipped over the whole Miranda, Mayorga argument.

But I have to give a ton of credit to Miranda for always looking at the top guys. Always trying to get big fights. He's been in against seriously dangerous fighters and not matched against tons of easy fights. He's a throwback, and I like his attitude in taking the best.

Credit to Kessler also. Not a stepping stone comeback fight, in against a real dangerous and hungry fighter. This is a great fight.

[donnydarkoIRL]

And you honestly think Miranda wouldn't get dominated by ODLH or Trinidad as well ?? and Miranda was dominated by Pavlik. The fact is Mayorga has had a better career than Miranda has had and i don't think you can say Miranda is a better boxer, there both pretty sloppy offensively and defensively, the only difference is that at least Mayorga held a title and beat Vernon Forrest x2 who was fresh off beating Shane Mosley.

As Mayorga comes to the end of his career, how can you compare his career to Miranda's who is relatively young and getting started?

Mayorga took beatings from De la Hoya and Trinidad, Had Miranda met Trinidad and Oscar at that time in their careers p4p there is a strong possibility that Miranda would have beaten them.

When has Mayorga ever been competitive with a man at the top of his division? Miranda broke Abrahams jaw in a good fight. I don't really rate Vernon Forrest.

When has Mayorga ever been in the ring with a current pound for pound guy? Miranda was in there with Pavlik?

In boxing because a fighter holds a title he is not necessarily better than one who doesn't. Case and Point Charley Burley ans Sam Langford.

[ICB]

As Mayorga comes to the end of his career, how can you compare his career to Miranda's who is relatively young and getting started?

Mayorga took beatings from De la Hoya and Trinidad, Had Miranda met Trinidad and Oscar at that time in their careers p4p there is a strong possibility that Miranda would have beaten them.

When has Mayorga ever been competitive with a man at the top of his division? Miranda broke Abrahams jaw in a good fight. I don't really rate Vernon Forrest.

When has Mayorga ever been in the ring with a current pound for pound guy? Miranda was in there with Pavlik?

In boxing because a fighter holds a title he is not necessarily better than one who doesn't. Case and Point Charley Burley ans Sam Langford.

First off i normally find you a very good poster Donny but i have to be honest with you, your comment about Miranda *may* of beat ODLH or Tito is ridiculous. I think your forgetting this is the same Miranda who could not beat Abraham despite Abraham's jaw being badly broken. Plus Miranda was also dropped by a 50 percent Allen Green, who was uninterested and wasn't even throwing any damn punches. ODLH and Tito even at that stage in there career's where at a much higher level than Miranda can ever dream of getting near.

When has Mayorga ever been competitive with a man at the top of the division ?? Vernon Forrest who was just coming off giving Mosley a beating. And wasn't Mosley P4P number 1 ?? You don't really rate Vernon Forrest but you rate Arthur Abraham ?? that really makes sense. Cory Spinks was also one of the top fighters in Welterweight division when Mayorga fought him, and a lot of people also thought Mayorga got robbed.

I hope you didn't take my comments offensively im just being honest with you i think your way off the mark here.

[Mikkel_K]

Oh, and on the Palle card tonight Anders Hugger won an UD, although it might not have been deserved. But since I like Hugger, and since I put him down for an UD in the Prediction Contest, I like this result!

[WelshDevilRob]

No wonder Miranda turned a WBC Elimenator against Froch down after Inkin pulled out this week.

[GermanHitman]

Kessler is too polished for Miranda. No disrespect to Miranda, He is a banger but he doesn't have the ring generalship that Kessler has. Kessler will systematically break him down. I think it will be a late one sided stoppage for Kessler. I am gonna say between round(s) 9-11 Kessler will drop the hammer on Miranda. I may have went with Kessler by TOTALLY one sided dec... but Kessler has something to prove now and unfortunately it's Miranda who's been doing alot of talking.

[Galaxy]

Glad to hear it's almost on!

[thewhale]

..and this shows that Kessler want the big ones, the last date I read was the 24 of may.

Hope it will generate a lot of interrest in the US to we could have a Pavlik-Kessler fight later on....

go Kessler

[p4pking]

And you honestly think Miranda wouldn't get dominated by ODLH or Trinidad as well ?? and Miranda was dominated by Pavlik. The fact is Mayorga has had a better career than Miranda has had and i don't think you can say Miranda is a better boxer, there both pretty sloppy offensively and defensively, the only difference is that at least Mayorga held a title and beat Vernon Forrest x2 who was fresh off beating Shane Mosley.

As Mayorga comes to the end of his career, how can you compare his career to Miranda's who is relatively young and getting started?

Mayorga took beatings from De la Hoya and Trinidad, Had Miranda met Trinidad and Oscar at that time in their careers p4p there is a strong possibility that Miranda would have beaten them.

When has Mayorga ever been competitive with a man at the top of his division? Miranda broke Abrahams jaw in a good fight. I don't really rate Vernon Forrest.

When has Mayorga ever been in the ring with a current pound for pound guy? Miranda was in there with Pavlik?

In boxing because a fighter holds a title he is not necessarily better than one who doesn't. Case and Point Charley Burley ans Sam Langford.

Are you fucking serious man? I have come to respect your posts and the fact that you box yourself... But did you just say, that had Miranda met Oscar or Tito, P4P he would have beaten them As in if Miranda weighed 154, he would've won?? Man that's some bullshit. Miranda isn't even close to the fighter that Oscar is p4p, and Trinidad either, although Tito's ring rust makes it closer. But seriously, Mayorga losing to those guys proves absolutely nothing in terms of comparing him to Miranda. It's a complete joke for you to suggest otherwise. Mayorga KO'ed Vernon Forrest and fought to a razor thin decision with Cory Spinks at his best. P4P, those feats are above anything Miranda will ever do, mark my words.