Toney was a bad bad man.
1. What is with the star of David looking thing?
2. What do you think of this Toney vs. Calzaghe of today?
Toney was a bad bad man.
1. What is with the star of David looking thing?
2. What do you think of this Toney vs. Calzaghe of today?
"If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.
That was a great fight, one of toney's finest displays..
You seen the guy, littles was game..undefeated and young, he could catch toney a bit.. Toney always was relaxed in there.
He just had such skills, and i love to see him use his skills, but he was always a boxer puncher, let it be known he would say i hate boxers, im not a boxer..
he fights, hes a puncher and he counters well but always gets right into the fight.. and the littles fight just showed you when he had to turn it on it was there and he could just get rid of a guy like that..
they say at the start of the fight toney say he could tell in the first round whether he could knock a guy out, or if hewas gona have to go the long haul.. and toney never rushed into big mistakes but he knew he could knock the guy out and when that cut came ( Hell of a cut .. anyone see in one of the breaks between rounds it literally spurts and goes over his eyelids.. Rank!)
then he just put up the pace and it had to be done there and then..
Young toney had unlimited potential and talent, very underrated, he was p4p big time before he slipped..
Hes done great since, not quite how it could have gone though..
Just like the bronx tale.. saddest thing on the earth is wasted talent
Immortal Technique
That was an awesome display. How much time do you think PBF spent studying James Toney tapes to learn the shoulder roll/right uppercut counter? I can't think of any two people who can do that better.
JFat.
One talented mo' fo'....
One of my favorite Toney fights
One of those fights where you really needed to see it live cause of the cut issues and not knowing if it would get stopped or not
That version of Toney would give Joe all he could handle, but I can see Joe winning a decision. Joe would be a matchup problem for Toney, much like Roy Jones was a matchup problem for him. Toney was troubled by Jones handspeed and pretty much got owned in that fight. I don't rate a prime Joe C as good as a prime Roy Jones - not quite as fast and doesn't have the power, but I thinking Calzaghe's speed would allow him to cause Toney to have problems getting his punches off. Toney is at his best when he can counter, and it would be very hard (though not impossible) to consistantly burn Joe with counters. Wouldn't have chance in hell to hurt Toney, but his speed and workrate might win him a close decision. I can see Toney landing the cleaner and more effective punches, but lossing because Joe's combos look good the judges.
[quote=boozeboxer;480897]Toney was a bad bad man.
1. What is with the star of David looking thing?
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it is supposedly a tribute to his manager at the time Jackie Kallen or so the story goes
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Last edited by JT Rock; 03-17-2008 at 10:15 PM.
Yes I agree Joe could pull the victory because of the styles, but it would be very close and Toney right hand could hurt Joe.
Didn't Toney threaten Kallen with a gun.
Saw an opponent call out Toney who was in the crowd, and he went into the ring and got the mike and said "lets go" the other guy was crapping himself.
That shit was priceless.I want to say it was Tyrone Trice ?? when He was supposed to fight Mcclellan and Trice got all puffed up with the mike in the ring saying Gerald "Had heart problems tonight".......dumbass should color himself lucky.Toney called his bluff and said something about knocking that bis ass mole off Trice's face, Classic Toney smacktalk Lol![]()
Toney v Littles was a good fight.
Littles looked good early on, he had power and he connected on James a number of times.
The difference in the fight for me was primarily down to chins. James Toney has a great chin, Littles didn't. End of!
But I f one were to search further you could see early that mentally in terms of preparation, Toney was in a different place. James was the complete professional at that time, with a menatlity to match. Littles was the young upstart, unfoetunately with a mentality to match. He had the correct physical make up, but his mind let him down.
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