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    Default Re: Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

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    Chagaev would pose a threat to fighters but i don't think wlad is one of them. Chagaev is tough but i don't see him as a threat to wlad himself. Dimitrenko has well flown under the radar thus far but soon he will EXPLODE into the scene.. Dimitrenko has a great amatuer background and is getting better in leaps and bounds. His height will be a huge advantage because he uses it well. He would personally for Wlad be much more difficult than a just above mediocre chagaev.
    I got to disagree there...I his last fight Dimitrenko was floored by a totally shot Timo Hoffmann...even though Dimitrenko won that one scoring two or three knockdowns himself...But Hoffmann was way past it and still gave Dimitrenko nearly more than he could handle...Dimitrenko has good speed and decent skill,but thats it...no punch(for a heavy) and chinny...
    I can understand your view, i just think dimitrenko does have a way to go... but when you say a " totally shot" hoffman.. is this the ONE AND ONLY guy that went the distance with Vitali Klitschko? That Timo Hoffman? Let's remember, Dimitrenko is still green in a sense.. he has time and natural abilities that can be given to someone speaking in terms of size. You don't start out on top.. he's a work in progress.. i think you will in the next year see him on HBO IMO.
    Yep...that Timo Hoffmann and you can be sure if Hoffmann would have been in his prime like vs Klitschko(or even against Krasnqi),Dimitrenko would have lost...I've following Dimitrenkos career for quite some time and I hope he will step it up soon,but so far he evaded the bigger names succesfully...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
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    I got to disagree there...I his last fight Dimitrenko was floored by a totally shot Timo Hoffmann...even though Dimitrenko won that one scoring two or three knockdowns himself...But Hoffmann was way past it and still gave Dimitrenko nearly more than he could handle...Dimitrenko has good speed and decent skill,but thats it...no punch(for a heavy) and chinny...
    I can understand your view, i just think dimitrenko does have a way to go... but when you say a " totally shot" hoffman.. is this the ONE AND ONLY guy that went the distance with Vitali Klitschko? That Timo Hoffman? Let's remember, Dimitrenko is still green in a sense.. he has time and natural abilities that can be given to someone speaking in terms of size. You don't start out on top.. he's a work in progress.. i think you will in the next year see him on HBO IMO.
    Yep...that Timo Hoffmann and you can be sure if Hoffmann would have been in his prime like vs Klitschko(or even against Krasnqi),Dimitrenko would have lost...I've following Dimitrenkos career for quite some time and I hope he will step it up soon,but so far he evaded the bigger names succesfully...

    I don't so much think it's Dimitrenko ducking bigger names as much as Klaus Peter kohl being notorious for padding really rediculously impressive records for all of his fighters before sending them into the lion's den metaphorically speaking. All the German boxing stables do that.. they work a fighter up huge in europe and then make sure that they can somewhat withstand things and then make them fight bums a little more after that.. and then they finally give the someone with half a name.

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    Default Re: Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

    Quote Originally Posted by GermanHitman View Post
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    I can understand your view, i just think dimitrenko does have a way to go... but when you say a " totally shot" hoffman.. is this the ONE AND ONLY guy that went the distance with Vitali Klitschko? That Timo Hoffman? Let's remember, Dimitrenko is still green in a sense.. he has time and natural abilities that can be given to someone speaking in terms of size. You don't start out on top.. he's a work in progress.. i think you will in the next year see him on HBO IMO.
    Yep...that Timo Hoffmann and you can be sure if Hoffmann would have been in his prime like vs Klitschko(or even against Krasnqi),Dimitrenko would have lost...I've following Dimitrenkos career for quite some time and I hope he will step it up soon,but so far he evaded the bigger names succesfully...

    I don't so much think it's Dimitrenko ducking bigger names as much as Klaus Peter kohl being notorious for padding really rediculously impressive records for all of his fighters before sending them into the lion's den metaphorically speaking. All the German boxing stables do that.. they work a fighter up huge in europe and then make sure that they can somewhat withstand things and then make them fight bums a little more after that.. and then they finally give the someone with half a name.
    You forgot to add....and then they get knocked out

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    Default Re: Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

    well.. that was the case for a while.. but seeing all the euro fighters making b-lines to train in Germany.. not so much the case anymore.

    Klitschkos, povetkin, valuev, chagaev, dimitrenko, solis, erdei, and many more.

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    Default Re: Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

    IMO it's Chagaev & Thompson
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    Default Re: Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

    I think we're dangerously close to overrating David Haye. Sure he's a natural heavyweight, but let's not forget he's a largely untested heavyweight. Sorry, but against Enzo, I saw a huge flaw in his game. The guy does this weird crouch-face-forward thing and combine that with his low left hand he is WIDE open for a quick, stiff jab. Sure he's fast and that's probably what will keep him away from such a punch, but a jab is the easiest one to throw and Wladimir Klitschko is the LAST guy you want to catch one from. He'll more than likely come in lighter like he did against Ibragimov and either dominate just the same or eventually plant a straight right on Haye's kisser. And I don't see things faring much better for him against Sam Peter. Let's just wait and see how Haye takes care of Dominick Guinn or Julius Long and go from there.

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    Right now I am not sure what person is the biggest threat to Wladimir other than Wladimir himself. When he gets complacent he can mess up and anyone can get to him but I think the days of him merely being happy to hold a title are over he wants a legacy that is compared with the Lewis', Hoilyfield's, and Tyson's and we're going to disagree if he can actually achieve that but he's going to try for it and the other heavyweights are going to have to fight each other and get the cream of the crop to fight him.


    David Haye is an unknown at the heavyweight division, we know he's a pretty fierce cruiserweight but it doesn't automatically mean he's going to dominate the heavyweight division especially when you consider the style matchups some of the top level heavyweights will give him.

    Sam Peter hasn't really improved all that well but he's a known entity and has a title and Manny seems pretty hot on a rematch between Sam Peter and Wlad but I think that is more to put on a really big show and have Wladimir be the first guy to KO Sam Peter AND making Wlad 3/4ths the unified champion of the heavyweight division. Sam Peter has gotten worse since Wlad fought him and Wlad has gotten better.

    Ruslan Chagaev is a tough guy, he hasn't really fought any big time punchers or even boxers as good as Wlad. I think he's dangerous because he's a southpaw and he can study how Wlad took on Sultan and Corrie Sanders but Wlad will learn how to take out a guy who is in the ring "not wanting to get KO'd"

    I am not really sure at this point in time if anyone is ready to take out Wlad so I guess the next two guys to face him have the best shots simply because they will be in the ring with him and you never know what is going to happen. Thompson should be easier to hit than Sultan but he is taller and boxes better, Povetkin is a hard worker but God help him if he usually puffs up like he did vs Chambers or if he's so easy to counter with the right cross

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    Default Re: Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

    David Haye, without doubt.

    Slapper boy has got to start running as the Hayemaker is waiting for him.

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    Don't get your hopes up too high....I'd wait to see how he handles some real heavyweights before I call him the next big thing much less the next guy ready to beat the champ.

    Haye is going to run into some guys who are going to be able to hurt him, he better get his defense ready

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    Default Re: Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    David Haye, without doubt.

    Slapper boy has got to start running as the Hayemaker is waiting for him.
    Case. In. Point.

    Lyle, you really think Peter has gotten worse? Peter gave Maskaev a whole lot more movement than he'd ever done pre-Klitschko, defensively. And he's less ept to rely solely on his power. He seems more likely to look for his opponent to show weakness rather than just trying to cut him down. I don't know about Peter winning, though. I do think it will be more of a competitive fight the second time around rather than a landslide.

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    Default Re: Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

    samuel peter

    david haye maybe, have to see how good he can be at heavyweight

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    I don't think Peter is that much of a threat to Wladimir as people think, his *so called* knockdowns of Wlad were rabbit punches and if i remember right technically only one of them should of counted. Peter never really hurt Wlad despite flooring him 3 times well if you call those proper knockdowns, and he was completely out boxed. People say Peter has made a lot of improvements but i don't really see much improvements, if anything he was exposed against McCline that his chin isn't as good as people think plus i think Peter's power is overrated as well. Peter is still a slow plodding Heavyweight with good power but not much else. Wlad has improved since the 1st Peter fight and he would totally out box Peter even worse this time, except it ain't going to be as exciting as there 1st meeting because Wlad will be even more cautious which will make it even harder for Peter to connect than it was in there 1st fight.

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    The biggest threat now has to be Peter.Wlad did beat him very easily except the rounds he was dropped,but Peter has gotten better.He has gained better boxing ability and Wlad really has just stayed the same and untested.I would still go with Wlad though this time and he'd probably stop Peter in 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    The biggest threat now has to be Peter.Wlad did beat him very easily except the rounds he was dropped,but Peter has gotten better.He has gained better boxing ability and Wlad really has just stayed the same and untested.I would still go with Wlad though this time and he'd probably stop Peter in 8.
    Sam Peter BARELY took the rounds where he dropped Wlad. Wlad easily dominated Sam Peter hitting him whenever he wanted to.

    As for Corrie Sanders it would be a HUGE risk but I too would like to see Wlad avenge his loss vs Sanders....I doubt anyone is high on seeing him fight Purrity again though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
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    The biggest threat now has to be Peter.Wlad did beat him very easily except the rounds he was dropped,but Peter has gotten better.He has gained better boxing ability and Wlad really has just stayed the same and untested.I would still go with Wlad though this time and he'd probably stop Peter in 8.
    Sam Peter BARELY took the rounds where he dropped Wlad. Wlad easily dominated Sam Peter hitting him whenever he wanted to.

    As for Corrie Sanders it would be a HUGE risk but I too would like to see Wlad avenge his loss vs Sanders....I doubt anyone is high on seeing him fight Purrity again though
    I don't think Peter even won any rounds against Wlad except the rounds he dropped him in obviously but other than that he won no other rounds. And how would Sanders be a *Huge* risk ?? Sanders was stopped in the 1st round just recently and he is 40+ i don't see that equals to Sanders being *dangerous*.

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