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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Has anyone seen the article on B-Hops "exacution squad" He's a funny guy.
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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tins06 View Post
    Has anyone seen the article on B-Hops "exacution squad" He's a funny guy.
    yeh, here's the link Boxing News -- Fightnews.com : EkpVAyFpZZUQPTsfCI

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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    I'm backing Hopkins!
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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Hopkins isn't gonna do shit other than pick his ass up off the canvas to get put down again.

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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

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    what i honestly expect is for calzaghe to punch hopkins arms a few times, and hopkins to land a jab or straight, over and over for 12 rds


    i seriously think calzaghe is HORRIBLE, i dont think hes ever fought anyone with even decent defense, i think that kessler being highly rated to make calzaghe look good even tho kessler only beat like beyer (whos about to get fucked up by a 43 year old roy jones) is a joke


    i expect hopkins to have NO trouble, i expect calzaghe to look AWFUL, and if he doesnt get hurt i think he will look worse, his father will have no clue what to tell him, and maybe finally this can all be over, if rees loses on saturday, which SHOULD happen, and calzaghe gets dominated like he should maybe this will all stop...



    but i dont think it will...



    i think what will happen is people will begin to say that hopkins is the best of all time and "OH DID YOU SEE THAT, CALZAGHE MADE IT SEVEN ROUNDS WITH THE GREAT HOPKINS!!!"


    its like when paul williams dominated margarito, the margarito hype should have died down, but instead it became 'paul williams must be top 10 p4p if he can beat margarito'




    anyway if hopkins does dominate calzaghe let it not be forgotten that a 43 year old man dominated him

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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher View Post
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    what i honestly expect is for calzaghe to punch hopkins arms a few times, and hopkins to land a jab or straight, over and over for 12 rds


    i seriously think calzaghe is HORRIBLE, i dont think hes ever fought anyone with even decent defense, i think that kessler being highly rated to make calzaghe look good even tho kessler only beat like beyer (whos about to get fucked up by a 43 year old roy jones) is a joke


    i expect hopkins to have NO trouble, i expect calzaghe to look AWFUL, and if he doesnt get hurt i think he will look worse, his father will have no clue what to tell him, and maybe finally this can all be over, if rees loses on saturday, which SHOULD happen, and calzaghe gets dominated like he should maybe this will all stop...



    but i dont think it will...



    i think what will happen is people will begin to say that hopkins is the best of all time and "OH DID YOU SEE THAT, CALZAGHE MADE IT SEVEN ROUNDS WITH THE GREAT HOPKINS!!!"


    its like when paul williams dominated margarito, the margarito hype should have died down, but instead it became 'paul williams must be top 10 p4p if he can beat margarito'




    anyway if hopkins does dominate calzaghe let it not be forgotten that a 43 year old man dominated him
    I don't mean to be Captain Obvious here... but your so off key that i don't even know why i am replying. Everything you say is baseless opinion. Kessler is not overrated he beat Andrade with basic ease. Andrade is very far from pushover status. You said that he only beat Beyer who is about to get beat by Jones.. (never happpened yet). And moving on to Calzaghe i really have no clue how you think that it's going to be so one sided for Hopkins.. This i just think you are uninformed about. Calzaghe will beat this man handily and i actually think he (Hopkins) is going to be KO'd. I see the Hopkins bandwagon is rolling and i have made a decision not to brake my ankles trying to jump on. Joe Calzaghe wins by late stoppage.

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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    I think Hopkins will be pressured quite a bit from jump off and will have to offset Calzaghes forward rythem.Once he does this ,Joe will play right into his hands ....and straight rights,shoulders,left hooks and Guile.Calzaghe is a class comer but will be in depths he has never seen even If Hopkins is nearly collecting social security.

    And Williams did not dominate Margarito

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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by GermanHitman View Post

    I don't mean to be Captain Obvious here... but your so off key that i don't even know why i am replying. Everything you say is baseless opinion. Kessler is not overrated he beat Andrade with basic ease. Andrade is very far from pushover status. You said that he only beat Beyer who is about to get beat by Jones.. (never happpened yet). And moving on to Calzaghe i really have no clue how you think that it's going to be so one sided for Hopkins.. This i just think you are uninformed about. Calzaghe will beat this man handily and i actually think he (Hopkins) is going to be KO'd. I see the Hopkins bandwagon is rolling and i have made a decision not to brake my ankles trying to jump on. Joe Calzaghe wins by late stoppage.

    I pretty much agree with what you say here but Andrade showed that night that he IS a pushover to elite level fighters... Beyer is a decent fighter and Kess should be given credit for that and also the fact he was able to be IN the fight with Calzaghe. Joe pulled away in the later rounds but Kess is clearly the future of the SMW Div. I understand not getting on the Hopkins bandwagon but a stoppage? C'mon, man
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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by GermanHitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher View Post
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    what i honestly expect is for calzaghe to punch hopkins arms a few times, and hopkins to land a jab or straight, over and over for 12 rds


    i seriously think calzaghe is HORRIBLE, i dont think hes ever fought anyone with even decent defense, i think that kessler being highly rated to make calzaghe look good even tho kessler only beat like beyer (whos about to get fucked up by a 43 year old roy jones) is a joke


    i expect hopkins to have NO trouble, i expect calzaghe to look AWFUL, and if he doesnt get hurt i think he will look worse, his father will have no clue what to tell him, and maybe finally this can all be over, if rees loses on saturday, which SHOULD happen, and calzaghe gets dominated like he should maybe this will all stop...



    but i dont think it will...



    i think what will happen is people will begin to say that hopkins is the best of all time and "OH DID YOU SEE THAT, CALZAGHE MADE IT SEVEN ROUNDS WITH THE GREAT HOPKINS!!!"


    its like when paul williams dominated margarito, the margarito hype should have died down, but instead it became 'paul williams must be top 10 p4p if he can beat margarito'




    anyway if hopkins does dominate calzaghe let it not be forgotten that a 43 year old man dominated him
    I don't mean to be Captain Obvious here... but your so off key that i don't even know why i am replying. Everything you say is baseless opinion. Kessler is not overrated he beat Andrade with basic ease. Andrade is very far from pushover status. You said that he only beat Beyer who is about to get beat by Jones.. (never happpened yet). And moving on to Calzaghe i really have no clue how you think that it's going to be so one sided for Hopkins.. This i just think you are uninformed about. Calzaghe will beat this man handily and i actually think he (Hopkins) is going to be KO'd. I see the Hopkins bandwagon is rolling and i have made a decision not to brake my ankles trying to jump on. Joe Calzaghe wins by late stoppage.
    agreed 100% for that, Hopkins is mediocre at best THESE DAYS and is a cheater to boot, Hopkins has done nothing but hit and hold at LightHeavy the fact that this fraud has slipped thru the cracks is just an example of how people get steeped in romance for an old fighter... Wake up!!! Taylor beat Hopkins on workrate and energy and that was like 3 years ago and Taylor as half the boxing skill of Calzaghe... Hopkins was able to resurge late in those fights because Taylor lacks stamina.. Joe does not

    Calzaghe will be all over him like stink on shit for 12 rounds and people will realize that a win over a weight drained suck ass one hit wonder milk dud Tarver, and a 5 division over his natural limit fat ass Winky Wright that the officiating was questionable to begin with, arent impressive wins

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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher View Post
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    what i honestly expect is for calzaghe to punch hopkins arms a few times, and hopkins to land a jab or straight, over and over for 12 rds


    i seriously think calzaghe is HORRIBLE, i dont think hes ever fought anyone with even decent defense, i think that kessler being highly rated to make calzaghe look good even tho kessler only beat like beyer (whos about to get fucked up by a 43 year old roy jones) is a joke


    i expect hopkins to have NO trouble, i expect calzaghe to look AWFUL, and if he doesnt get hurt i think he will look worse, his father will have no clue what to tell him, and maybe finally this can all be over, if rees loses on saturday, which SHOULD happen, and calzaghe gets dominated like he should maybe this will all stop...



    but i dont think it will...



    i think what will happen is people will begin to say that hopkins is the best of all time and "OH DID YOU SEE THAT, CALZAGHE MADE IT SEVEN ROUNDS WITH THE GREAT HOPKINS!!!"


    its like when paul williams dominated margarito, the margarito hype should have died down, but instead it became 'paul williams must be top 10 p4p if he can beat margarito'




    anyway if hopkins does dominate calzaghe let it not be forgotten that a 43 year old man dominated him
    So presumabely if this does NOT happen, lets say calzaghe SCHOOLS hopkins or DOMINATES the fight...totally out mastering the 'chess master'...then you will ADMIT that calzaghe is a great fighter WITHOUT MAKING EXCUSES?

    Or will you simply sweep the victory aside and say ''ah, but hopkins was past it, we all knew that''?

    Then if calzaghe fights pavlik and you predict a pavlik ko or calzaghe by one of pavliks big shots, but instead calzaghe batters him up big time, will you say ''ah, but pavlik is too young and inexperienced, we all knew that''?

    Then when everyone is hyping dawson up (lets say because hes just beaten johnson/woods) and hes the 'new thing', (aka jeff lacy) then he faces calzaghe and suprise suprise you predict...that dawson will beat calzaghe (by this time if hes alreday beaten pavlik, lacy, hopkins, kessler and eubank, you would have thought people would learn by now though). Instead of dawson winning he gets totally out boxed by the 'weak powered, non 'straight punching', slapper' joe calzaghe...then youll say 'ah, but we all know that dawson was just another lacy, he was hyped up too much and wasnt experienced enough?''

    So...which band are you in? Should your prediction be wrong about this fight, are you willing to at least be open minded and accept THERE IS A POSSIBILITY that joe (as much as it pains people of this idea) could indeed be the greatest boxer of this generation, better than hopkins or mayweather (depending of course on future results)...or are u in the band that would just dismiss it instantly and try to make excuses for the wins over mitchell, reid, eubank, lacy, kessler, hopkins, pavlik and dawson

    To me, if calzaghe beats the next big 3 fighters in the states, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES, he is what he says he is, he is simply the best in the world bar none.

    If he loses, i'll say that he was a great fighter but not the best, he avoided america because he was scared of it and he also was protected by his promoter. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY IM WRONG...But the question is...

    SHOULD YOU BE WRONG, WILL YOU PUT YOUR HANDS UP AND NOT MAKE ANY EXCUSES?

    V interesting thread this has become.

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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    This could be the fight that age catches up with Hopkins.

    I don't think Joe will throw caution to the winds and let his hands go more than usual. Joe's too smart for that. He'll throw a LOT of punches. A lot of them will be the pitty patty fast combinations that annoy the hell out of me but will frustrate Hopkins.

    I really hope I'm wrong but I think the fight will not be exciting - it will be facinating though. Joe by decision with both fighters at least warned several times for infringements if not penalised points.
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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Has the thought crossed anyones minds yet that it might not be hopkins who will dictate the tempo of the fight?

    That perhaps calzaghe has the ringcraft and ability to dictate the pace of the fight and to make hopkins fight the way he wants. To me it seems that calzaghe can counter, fight at distance, infight/scrap...he was the one who started dictating the pace and fight in the kessler fight. He has shown it many times before.

    I think people are underrestimating calzaghe's own ability to dictate the pace and style of fight.

    Of course hopkins is fantastic at doing this, BUT if youve watched calzaghe's fights over the years like i have, then you know that calzaghe dictates his fights.

    As for 'non straight punching, ive got to say that is the most stupid comments ive ever heard about calzaghe.

    Do you know who else didnt use many straight punches, his name was MIKE TYSON.

    Sorry guys, he threw many straight punches against kessler and lacy. In his career his always shown good jabs and right crosses, the calzaghe jab is a brilliant jab...i dont know what planet you guys are on.

    You cant just look at the manfredo fight, manfredo didnt throw one punch in that fight, he was simply getting hammered by all sorts of punches and just covered up, he couldnt even take his gloves away from his face it was ridiculous.

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    Default Re: Hate to say it but..Hopkins might do a number on Calzaghe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by LondonBB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher View Post
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    what i honestly expect is for calzaghe to punch hopkins arms a few times, and hopkins to land a jab or straight, over and over for 12 rds


    i seriously think calzaghe is HORRIBLE, i dont think hes ever fought anyone with even decent defense, i think that kessler being highly rated to make calzaghe look good even tho kessler only beat like beyer (whos about to get fucked up by a 43 year old roy jones) is a joke


    i expect hopkins to have NO trouble, i expect calzaghe to look AWFUL, and if he doesnt get hurt i think he will look worse, his father will have no clue what to tell him, and maybe finally this can all be over, if rees loses on saturday, which SHOULD happen, and calzaghe gets dominated like he should maybe this will all stop...



    but i dont think it will...



    i think what will happen is people will begin to say that hopkins is the best of all time and "OH DID YOU SEE THAT, CALZAGHE MADE IT SEVEN ROUNDS WITH THE GREAT HOPKINS!!!"


    its like when paul williams dominated margarito, the margarito hype should have died down, but instead it became 'paul williams must be top 10 p4p if he can beat margarito'




    anyway if hopkins does dominate calzaghe let it not be forgotten that a 43 year old man dominated him
    So presumabely if this does NOT happen, lets say calzaghe SCHOOLS hopkins or DOMINATES the fight...totally out mastering the 'chess master'...then you will ADMIT that calzaghe is a great fighter WITHOUT MAKING EXCUSES?

    Or will you simply sweep the victory aside and say ''ah, but hopkins was past it, we all knew that''?

    Then if calzaghe fights pavlik and you predict a pavlik ko or calzaghe by one of pavliks big shots, but instead calzaghe batters him up big time, will you say ''ah, but pavlik is too young and inexperienced, we all knew that''?

    Then when everyone is hyping dawson up (lets say because hes just beaten johnson/woods) and hes the 'new thing', (aka jeff lacy) then he faces calzaghe and suprise suprise you predict...that dawson will beat calzaghe (by this time if hes alreday beaten pavlik, lacy, hopkins, kessler and eubank, you would have thought people would learn by now though). Instead of dawson winning he gets totally out boxed by the 'weak powered, non 'straight punching', slapper' joe calzaghe...then youll say 'ah, but we all know that dawson was just another lacy, he was hyped up too much and wasnt experienced enough?''

    So...which band are you in? Should your prediction be wrong about this fight, are you willing to at least be open minded and accept THERE IS A POSSIBILITY that joe (as much as it pains people of this idea) could indeed be the greatest boxer of this generation, better than hopkins or mayweather (depending of course on future results)...or are u in the band that would just dismiss it instantly and try to make excuses for the wins over mitchell, reid, eubank, lacy, kessler, hopkins, pavlik and dawson

    To me, if calzaghe beats the next big 3 fighters in the states, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES, he is what he says he is, he is simply the best in the world bar none.

    If he loses, i'll say that he was a great fighter but not the best, he avoided america because he was scared of it and he also was protected by his promoter. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY IM WRONG...But the question is...

    SHOULD YOU BE WRONG, WILL YOU PUT YOUR HANDS UP AND NOT MAKE ANY EXCUSES?

    V interesting thread this has become.
    Great post LondonBB

    People seem to think that Calzaghe is in his prime despite him being 35 and his hands not solid like they used to be. Hopkins would have lost this fight years ago thats why he wouldn't get in the ring.


    The trouble with some posters is that they have completely ignored JC for years and only saw him fight when he thrashed Jeff Lacy and now they are suddenly experts.
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