I percieve a big future problem with rep

[Kev]

Just thought I'd air this as I think it will be a big problem a few months from now.

The current rep system is flawed in that people's rep increases way too quickly.

Since this new board opened my own own rep score ocnverted from coolclicks has doubled. I imagine people who had less coolclicks to begin with will have seen their rating quadroupled or even more in that time scale.

Already I'm handing out 60 points per rep, Mick I believe is in the 70's.

The amount of points I have increases every single day as does I imagine a lot of others.

This rapid inflation will cause a huge problem a few months from now. By the end of March Mick will already doubtless be packing a punch of 100 oer hit, I'll probably be at 90 with Gamo, Boxing Gorilla and Saddo all around the same.

By the end of the summer I'd imagine at this growth Mick will be packing a punch of around 500 and I'd guess over a 1000 by the end of the year!

Everybody else's reps will also grow exponentially so that by early 2009 everybody will be at least a Saddo Hall of Famer just by registering and getting a couple of welcomes.

Are we just going to get used to people having rep scores in the hundreds of thousands with Saddo needing to constantly update the rankings to take account of this inflation or are we going to change the system?

Just my thoughts, call it concern but I'm interested to hear what others think?

[CutMeMick]

Bilbos frustrated cause he has finally realized he'll never catch up to me...


Just kidding bilbo... I think your onto something.

[CutMeMick]

By the way you spend waaaaaay to much time on this Rep. thing....

Just dish it out and that's that... No need to have a log in.
I don't keep track I just dish it out to those who deserve it and those who Rape ooops! Rep. me....

[Kev]

hehe I know what your saying Mick but I just think this new rep system means people earn a rep way too quickly.

I'm sure you'll remember before we had the new board Wacko had over 3000 coolclicks, he was over 1000 more ahead of anybody else.

It took him 4 years of being a 100% devoted member to this site and countless rbr's to earn that number.

Under our old coolclick system he could have had a year off and come back and STILL had more coolclicks than anybody else. A coolclick score was harder to earn and thus reflected more fairly on the status of someone like Wacko.

Now if you sort members by reputation in just a single month he's already been dumped to 4th place

By the end of April I doubt he will even be on the top 30 page. If he hasn't returned by the end of the summer he will barely make the top 100

I personally think that sucks. It took me over two years to earn just over 2000 coolcliks. I've more than doubled that score in a month on the new system, and remember that with the constant inflation every month from now this process will accelerate faster and faster!

Furthermore I miss the anonymous sad clicks. I've only ever had one bad rep since we started this new system, from Violent D for saying his ICQ Flower made him look gay.

I just don't think the new system is very fun any more

I used to prefer patiently building collecting my coolclicks one at a time, cursing when someone anonymously gave me a sadclick and wondering who it was and why

A person's reputation was patiently built over a long time, slowly, bit by bit.


I mean no disrespect to Clubber at all when I say this but I don't think I even knew you before a couple of months ago and already you have a reputation of 1000 and within a couple of months at that rate will overtake our all time most esteemed member Wacko in reputation.

That's just not right imo.

I personally vote we go back to the old coolclick system.

Anybody with me?

[Douglas]

By flipshits do you mean Hairy Terry? He's been banned for awhile now hasn't he?

Yes,a lot of peoples reps have been skyrocketing (mine included). The main problem is we CAN'T GIVE REP ANONYMOUSLY!!!!! That's the main reason right there. WHEN SOMEONE GIVES REP TO SOMEONE, THAT PERSON USUALLY RETURNS THE FAVOR, WHETHER IT BE GOOD OR BAD.

[Douglas]

Oh by the way Bilbo, I've been on this forum since 2004, I just didn't always have time to post as much, and you've been here since 2005. I'm older than you!

[Kev]

By flipshits do you mean Hairy Terry? He's been banned for awhile now hasn't he?

Yes Mick, a lot of peoples reps have been skyrocketing (mine included). The main problem is we CAN'T GIVE REP ANONYMOUSLY!!!!! That's the main reason right there. WHEN SOMEONE GIVES REP TO SOMEONE, THAT PERSON USUALLY RETURNS THE FAVOR, WHETHER IT BE GOOD OR BAD.

That's definitely partly it but the inflating punch power is the biggest problem imo.

It means it will always be easier and easier to earn rep in the future than was in the past and is right now. That kind of sucks to me.

Also I think its undemocratic!

During a general election you might be the most intelligent, well educated man on the planet who has thouroughly researched every nominee before you vote.

Your next door neighbour on the other hand might be a complete idiot who can barely muster the intelligence to mark his ballot paper correctly.

Nevertheless you still both only get 1 vote each, on account of every man (and woman) being equal. That's democracy.

Our new rep system where people like myself and Mick have huge punch power whilst other longterm members who are every bit as respected such as Big H, Scrap and Mark TKO have very little just makes no sense to me.


Coolclicks was the ultimate system imo. 1 click either good or bad per person. Perfect democracy in action.

[BoxingGorilla]

Saddo fixed it to where you can limit the rep you give someone so if you give 10 for a joke and give 20 for an article or 30 for picture of Bilbo than you can put things into perspective.

I took action with the rep I give for the prediction contest because I noticed that some people with less than 100 posts had a 4 or 5 punch power already. That's ridiculous.

Anyway, I think what Saddo did fixed the problem. I think.

[Kev]

Saddo fixed it to where you can limit the rep you give someone so if you give 10 for a joke and give 20 for an article or 30 for picture of Bilbo than you can put things into perspective.

I took action with the rep I give for the prediction contest because I noticed that some people with less than 100 posts had a 4 or 5 punch power already. That's ridiculous.

Anyway, I think what Saddo did fixed the problem. I think.

That doesn't really fix the problem imo as reps are still inflating.

The only way to make the system work longterm is if people's punchpower doesn't inflate at all. Putting it on an inflatory system just means that in time it will spiral out of control.

[Violent Demise]

hehe I know what your saying Mick but I just think this new rep system means people earn a rep way too quickly.

I'm sure you'll remember before we had the new board Wacko had over 3000 coolclicks, he was over 1000 more ahead of anybody else.

It took him 4 years of being a 100% devoted member to this site and countless rbr's to earn that number.

Under our old coolclick system he could have had a year off and come back and STILL had more coolclicks than anybody else. A coolclick score was harder to earn and thus reflected more fairly on the status of someone like Wacko.

Now if you sort members by reputation in just a single month he's already been dumped to 4th place

By the end of April I doubt he will even be on the top 30 page. If he hasn't returned by the end of the summer he will barely make the top 100

I personally think that sucks. It took me over two years to earn just over 2000 coolcliks. I've more than doubled that score in a month on the new system, and remember that with the constant inflation every month from now this process will accelerate faster and faster!

Furthermore I miss the anonymous sad clicks. I've only ever had one bad rep since we started this new system, from Violent D for saying his ICQ Flower made him look gay.

I just don't think the new system is very fun any more

I used to prefer patiently building collecting my coolclicks one at a time, cursing when someone anonymously gave me a sadclick and wondering who it was and why

A person's reputation was patiently built over a long time, slowly, bit by bit.


I mean no disrespect to Clubber at all when I say this but I don't think I even knew you before a couple of months ago and already you have a reputation of 1000 and within a couple of months at that rate will overtake our all time most esteemed member Wacko in reputation.

That's just not right imo.

I personally vote we go back to the old coolclick system.

Anybody with me?

I just made it 2 times for you

[Douglas]

The current rep system is flawed in that people's rep increases way too quickly.

I've noticed it too, but it makes losers such as myself feel kinda good.

But just think, if you ever did get a punch power of 1,000, imagine the amount of damage you could deal to give bad rep to someone like Terry Buttkins or some other shit stirrer. I think so it's possible to have negative rep points (thought I saw someone one time with a rep score of -15).

[CutMeMick]

The current rep system is flawed in that people's rep increases way too quickly.

I've noticed it too, but it makes losers such as myself feel kinda good.

But just think, if you ever did get a punch power of 1,000, imagine the amount of damage you could deal to give bad rep to someone like Terry Buttkins or some other shit stirrer. I think so it's possible to have negative rep points (thought I saw someone one time with a rep score of -15).

That was Fl!p Shit... I mean Fl!p Flop.... I mean Fl!p Fuck....
Ahhhhh! Fl!p Flash... that's it.

[CutMeMick]

For the record Fl!p Shits no longer here...

He go bye bye