While everyones been jumping on Floyd some sneaky bastage has flown under the radar

[Galaxy]

Here's a scenario:

1. Hopkins beats Calzaghe
2. Dawson beats Johnson in very impressive fashion
3. Hopkins chooses a bigger money fight against Roy Jones instead of fighting Dawson

Now, I'm not necessarily predicting this to happen, just saying that it's a possibility. If it plays out like that, does Hopkins get the same amount of scrutiny for "avoiding" Dawson that Mayweather is getting right now for "avoiding" Cotto?

I doubt it, even though the two situations would be very similar.

I agree.

As for Hopkins he's an ATG & I could see him facing Dawson over Jones as it would be more of a challenge IMO

[Julius Rain]

first of, theres no cotto in lightheavyweight;

that division isn't as good as the welterweight or atleast not as popular any longer.

bhop still is fighting great competition and not for money unlike floyd.

bhop vs joe isn't even ppv so thats a clear indicate that these two are fighting for history and better legacy not money. Unlike against oscar who is only for $$$$

Bhop defeated LHW undisputed champ Tarver! the man that beat the man (roy jones)

Winky even though was smaller than bhop only because bhop has move up to LW, but bhop and winky just months before there fight were basically both middleweights.

And Bhop is fighting Calzagne. enough said.

these three consecutive oppenents for bhop is a lot better then floyds whole career. plus their division is far different, if LHW was a stack division then I'd be moaning about bhop defending too, but yet since he is fighting p4p fighters I can't say shyt.

NOTE: BHOP KO'D OSCAR, FLOYD WON STD.oops i mean sd

[Kev]

that division isn't as good as the welterweight or atleast not as popular any longer.

bhop still is fighting great competition and not for money unlike floyd.

How are 39 year old Tarver and 36 year old Winky better than a prime Hatton and a 34 year old Oscar?

bhop vs joe isn't even ppv so thats a clear indicate that these two are fighting for history and better legacy not money. Unlike against oscar who is only for $$$$

Hopkins is fighting for money just like Floyd

Bhop defeated LHW undisputed champ Tarver! the man that beat the man (roy jones)

Floyd defeated the WW undisputed champ Baldimor! the man that beat the man (Zab Judah) Floyd also beat that man as well!

Winky even though was smaller than bhop only because bhop has move up to LW, but bhop and winky just months before there fight were basically both middleweights.

Hatton was only smaller than Floyd because Floyd moved up from Superfeatherweight! And Oscar was much bigger

And Bhop is fighting Calzagne. enough said.

Floyd is fighting Oscar again, not popular but you are kidding yourself if you think Oscar De La Hoya is an easy opponent for anybody

these three consecutive oppenents for bhop is a lot better then floyds whole career. plus their division is far different, if LHW was a stack division then I'd be moaning about bhop defending too, but yet since he is fighting p4p fighters I can't say shyt.

So a 39 year old Tarver, and a 36 year old Winky are better than prime undefeated Diego Corrales, prime Castillo, prime undefeated Ricky Hatton?

As for Calzahghe I agree he's awesome but lets wait and see if BHop actually beats him before we comment shall we?

NOTE: BHOP KO'D OSCAR, FLOYD WON STD.oops i mean sd

Floyd is a former SUPERFEATHERWEIGHT fighting at 135 lbs. Oscar was 5 divisions above his natural weight class.

When BHop moves five divisions up (actually he can only move up 4 from middle) to heavyweight and wins a SD win over Sam Peter or Wladimir Klitschko then we can compare merits.

[Julius Rain]

that division isn't as good as the welterweight or atleast not as popular any longer.

bhop still is fighting great competition and not for money unlike floyd.

How are 39 year old Tarver and 36 year old Winky better than a prime Hatton and a 34 year old Oscar?

Winky was second p4p best when bhop beat him, enough said.

bhop vs joe isn't even ppv so thats a clear indicate that these two are fighting for history and better legacy not money. Unlike against oscar who is only for $$$$

Hopkins is fighting for money just like Floyd.

For a guy whos fighting for money, why don't he just rematch oscar instead of fighting a real competition against calzagne in a non ppv event?

Bhop defeated LHW undisputed champ Tarver! the man that beat the man (roy jones)

Floyd defeated the WW undisputed champ Baldimor! the man that beat the man (Zab Judah) Floyd also beat that man as well!

zab is no roy jones jr, thats not even comparable.

Winky even though was smaller than bhop only because bhop has move up to LW, but bhop and winky just months before there fight were basically both middleweights.

Hatton was only smaller than Floyd because Floyd moved up from Superfeatherweight! And Oscar was much bigger

Its easy for a fighter like floyd to move up like that cause he barely fights

And Bhop is fighting Calzagne. enough said.

Floyd is fighting Oscar again, not popular but you are kidding yourself if you think Oscar De La Hoya is an easy opponent for anybody.

you know your right, for a so called p4p king even old version oscar who is only a part time boxer now is tough for floyd.

these three consecutive oppenents for bhop is a lot better then floyds whole career. plus their division is far different, if LHW was a stack division then I'd be moaning about bhop defending too, but yet since he is fighting p4p fighters I can't say shyt.

So a 39 year old Tarver, and a 36 year old Winky are better than prime undefeated Diego Corrales, prime Castillo, prime undefeated Ricky Hatton?

As much as I love chico, castillo and even ricky. YES winky alone is better then the three even at 36 years of age.

As for Calzahghe I agree he's awesome but lets wait and see if BHop actually beats him before we comment shall we?

Joe earned my respect, this fight is right down the middle hard to say who'll win.

NOTE: BHOP KO'D OSCAR, FLOYD WON STD.oops i mean sd

Floyd is a former SUPERFEATHERWEIGHT fighting at 135 lbs. Oscar was 5 divisions above his natural weight class.

Natural would mean recent, floyds now natural weight class is 147 thats only one division from where they fought 154 which is only 7 pounds north. For a p4p king that shouldn't be a problem. bhop went from middleweight to LHW to beat tarver who beat ROY FUCKING JONES JR, not baldomir who beat zab joke judah!

When BHop moves five divisions up (actually he can only move up 4 from middle) to heavyweight and wins a SD win over Sam Peter or Wladimir Klitschko then we can compare merits.

you know as weak as the state of the heavyweight is, i wouldn't be suprise if bhop did what roy did and win ud against one of those fat bastards.

[Kev]

first of, theres no cotto in lightheavyweight;

that division isn't as good as the welterweight or atleast not as popular any longer.

bhop still is fighting great competition and not for money unlike floyd.

bhop vs joe isn't even ppv so thats a clear indicate that these two are fighting for history and better legacy not money. Unlike against oscar who is only for $$$$

Bhop defeated LHW undisputed champ Tarver! the man that beat the man (roy jones)

Winky even though was smaller than bhop only because bhop has move up to LW, but bhop and winky just months before there fight were basically both middleweights.

And Bhop is fighting Calzagne. enough said.

these three consecutive oppenents for bhop is a lot better then floyds whole career. plus their division is far different, if LHW was a stack division then I'd be moaning about bhop defending too, but yet since he is fighting p4p fighters I can't say shyt.

NOTE: BHOP KO'D OSCAR, FLOYD WON STD.oops i mean sd

Rains Winky was NOT rated p4p 2 in the world when he fought Bhop

Floyd, Pacquaio, BHop, JM Marquez, R Marquez and Jermain Taylor were all above Winky, possible Ricky Hatton as well.

Winky was at the bottom end of the p4p rankings

[Julius Rain]

first of, theres no cotto in lightheavyweight;

that division isn't as good as the welterweight or atleast not as popular any longer.

bhop still is fighting great competition and not for money unlike floyd.

bhop vs joe isn't even ppv so thats a clear indicate that these two are fighting for history and better legacy not money. Unlike against oscar who is only for $$$$

Bhop defeated LHW undisputed champ Tarver! the man that beat the man (roy jones)

Winky even though was smaller than bhop only because bhop has move up to LW, but bhop and winky just months before there fight were basically both middleweights.

And Bhop is fighting Calzagne. enough said.

these three consecutive oppenents for bhop is a lot better then floyds whole career. plus their division is far different, if LHW was a stack division then I'd be moaning about bhop defending too, but yet since he is fighting p4p fighters I can't say shyt.

NOTE: BHOP KO'D OSCAR, FLOYD WON STD.oops i mean sd

Rains Winky was NOT rated p4p 2 in the world when he fought Bhop

Floyd, Pacquaio, BHop, JM Marquez, R Marquez and Jermain Taylor were all above Winky, possible Ricky Hatton as well.

Winky was at the bottom end of the p4p rankings

how the hell did winky drop from second to the bottom then? he was on my p4p list as second when bhop fought him.

[Galaxy]

first of, theres no cotto in lightheavyweight;

that division isn't as good as the welterweight or atleast not as popular any longer.

bhop still is fighting great competition and not for money unlike floyd.

bhop vs joe isn't even ppv so thats a clear indicate that these two are fighting for history and better legacy not money. Unlike against oscar who is only for $$$$

Bhop defeated LHW undisputed champ Tarver! the man that beat the man (roy jones)

Winky even though was smaller than bhop only because bhop has move up to LW, but bhop and winky just months before there fight were basically both middleweights.

And Bhop is fighting Calzagne. enough said.

these three consecutive oppenents for bhop is a lot better then floyds whole career. plus their division is far different, if LHW was a stack division then I'd be moaning about bhop defending too, but yet since he is fighting p4p fighters I can't say shyt.

NOTE: BHOP KO'D OSCAR, FLOYD WON STD.oops i mean sd

Rains Winky was NOT rated p4p 2 in the world when he fought Bhop

Floyd, Pacquaio, BHop, JM Marquez, R Marquez and Jermain Taylor were all above Winky, possible Ricky Hatton as well.

Winky was at the bottom end of the p4p rankings

how the hell did winky drop from second to the bottom then? he was on my p4p list as second when bhop fought him.

He wasn't bottom, Ring mag had him at 5. The rankings were:

Floyd
Pac
Rafa
JMM
Winky

[Galaxy]

Get your facts right Rain Wright was ranked #5 by Ring mag when Hopkins defeated him.

[Galaxy]

Hops didnt beat him, they just gave the decision to Hops, who cheated his way to victory.

Hopkins dominated Wright down the stretch. Wright's jab was ineffectual! His defense was punched through, around or timed brilliantly! Wright also looked unbalance & amateurish.

[p4pking]

Hops didnt beat him, they just gave the decision to Hops, who cheated his way to victory.

Hopkins dominated Wright down the stretch. Wright's jab was ineffectual! His defense was punched through, around or timed brilliantly! Wright also looked unbalance & amateurish.

Agree completely. It wasn't a pretty fight, and it was difficult to score, but Hopkins took away Wrights best weapons and definetly made the fight much harder on him than it was on himself, which is what he does best. I also believe Winky should have been much higher than #5 going into that fight. The thought that Jermain Taylor and Ricky Hatton may have been above him p4p makes me queezy.

[Galaxy]

Yeah sure, after he rabbit-punched, low-blowed, headbutted, held more than Ruiz, and elbowed Wright for 12 rounds.

And Wright knew Hopkins was a dirty fighter coming in & couldn't do anything against it! Hopkins is a genius!!!

[Galaxy]

first of, theres no cotto in lightheavyweight;

that division isn't as good as the welterweight or atleast not as popular any longer.

bhop still is fighting great competition and not for money unlike floyd.

bhop vs joe isn't even ppv so thats a clear indicate that these two are fighting for history and better legacy not money. Unlike against oscar who is only for $$$$

Bhop defeated LHW undisputed champ Tarver! the man that beat the man (roy jones)

Winky even though was smaller than bhop only because bhop has move up to LW, but bhop and winky just months before there fight were basically both middleweights.

And Bhop is fighting Calzagne. enough said.

these three consecutive oppenents for bhop is a lot better then floyds whole career. plus their division is far different, if LHW was a stack division then I'd be moaning about bhop defending too, but yet since he is fighting p4p fighters I can't say shyt.

NOTE: BHOP KO'D OSCAR, FLOYD WON STD.oops i mean sd

Can you say: Double standard?

Floyds last 4 opponents have all been ranked, 2 of them Ring champions, the other 2 former Ring champions.

Floyd beat Baldomir who had beaten the man Judah,who had beaten the man Spinks, who had beaten the man Mayorga, who had beaten the man Forrest who was the man after beating Mosley.

It was 19 months from when Hopkins left 160 until he fought Wright. It was 19 months since Hatton had fought Collazo at 147 until he fought Mayweather.

You need to research Mayweather's record, he's beaten 2 current & 4 former Ring champions & fought against the #1 ranked guy 5 times. Cotto's never fought the #1 guy in a division & only 2 former Ring champs.

Floyd's last fight was a defense of his 147 championship.

[OumaFan]

first of, theres no cotto in lightheavyweight;

Pretty much

Cotto/Mayweather's the biggest fight in boxing bar none so of course people are going to be screaming about it.

Personally I don't care if they build Mayweather/Cotto up for a while and I won't say Mayweather's ducking Cotto for at least another year or so but I don't see the comparison here.