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    Vera was getting nailed with the left cross all night long....he kept coming. I am of the belief that had Lee used the jab and moved then Vera would have slowed down but by engaging with Vera in exchanges Andy Lee gave up his momentum in the bout and gave Brian Vera more to fight for.....that glimmer of hope is all a fighter needs. When Sultan fought Wlad, Wlad closed the door on him he gave Sultan no chance to win, and no chance to gain momentum and therefore Sultan fought like a defeated fighter.


    Sultan was less dangerous than Vera because Wlad let him know he wasn't going to give him any opportunities. After Vera was knocked down, had Lee backed off a bit and won rounds then Vera might have given up or fought at a more managable pace.


    Andy Lee just picked the wrong times to exchange with Vera and had he not tried to KO him so much he would have had more energy.




    I also think it's very important to recognize that Manny Steward probably hurt Andy Lee's chances as well. Manny was displeased with how Aaron Pryor Jr. did and maybe he wanted Andy to finish the show with a bang and it ended up costing them. The Kronk fighters didn't look so hot on Friday.

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    Comparison that matters

    Lee fights exciting fights when Wlad doesn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Comparison that matters

    Lee fights exciting fights when Wlad doesn't

    .....what use is excitement when at the end of the night you don't win?


    Wlad can afford to be exciting tomorrow, Andy Lee is now forced to rethink his approach because of his miscalculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Comparison that matters

    Lee fights exciting fights when Wlad doesn't

    .....what use is excitement when at the end of the night you don't win?


    Wlad can afford to be exciting tomorrow, Andy Lee is now forced to rethink his approach because of his miscalculation.
    This is where we differ, Lyle. You IMO are well versed in the sport and are always able to back up your oppinions/views while others may not.

    Now when you say "what use is excitement when at the end of the day you don't win?"

    As a fan, I want my man to go out on his shield... Not be reckless, but FIGHT.

    I'm not saying that I'd like a loss over a boring fight by any means but seriously... If throughout history the heavyweights all fought like Wlad(in his last fight... He has been in good scraps in the past) no one would watch that division at all... Well, maybe you.

    I want to know I'm watching a fight... Yeah Lee lost. Do you really think Vera is a giant setback for him? No... I bet they have a rematch and Lee wins on points... He'll keep separation next time.

    Lee likes contact, he can handle contact and he likes to deal it out. He's a tough kid. Wlad will be comfortable lumbering his way through the rest of his career(probably a fine one... probably unifying) with his jab. If you want to watch that, that's fine.

    I on the other hand would much rather watch some guys who aren't afraid to throw their power hands... Guys that don't mind taking one to give one.

    Cuz "at the end of the day" this is a contact sport... Men get hit(sometimes even with right hands) and men go down. I'd rather watch a fight with two men willing to taste the canvas rather then a guy who'd rather do gay underwear ads with his brother
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