How do Sturm and Abraham get away with such shitty title defenses?

[Kev]

Well... I'm a fan of both guys,but that doesn't mean that I'm happy with the choice of opponents they fought...Both have the stuff to be worthy champions,its just a shame that their management isn't as confident as I am about that...and so they let them fight one voluntary defense after another...Thats not exactly true,Sturm fought Randy Griffin and AA fought Khoren Gevor last year and both were mandatory...
But there is a ray of hope...Sturm will face next the winner of Castillejo vs Sylvester(and yeah I know Casti again ?!?But lets not forget even being old as he is...he is a highly ranked middleweight and rightly so...)and its looks like AA will fight on 7th of june already again in Madison Square Garden...


And to be fair,who besides Pavlik has covered himself with glory in the middleweight division lately...?!?

I guess but at least Pavlik and Taylor before him were fighting relevant fights. Say what you like about Taylor but that guy did take on all comers.










Most think he lost to all of them but that is besides the point

[BoxingGorilla]

I was thinking the same thing when I was selecting the (STAR) fight this week. I almost put it on Ouma Vs. K-9 but couldn't bring myself to do it.

[Kev]

I was thinking the same thing when I was selecting the (STAR) fight this week. I almost put it on Ouma Vs. K-9 but couldn't bring myself to do it.

Yeah it will take a brave man to put anything other than Abraham KO in that fight. I guess the interesting part will be to see how many people have a go at picking the round.

It's a horrible star fight imo as someone is bound to get a 30 point haul out of it but I realise you had no other choice.

I've got a sneaking feeling that this will be the week that Welsh Devil bounces back with a 60 point haul.

[CutMeMick]

Both Abraham and Sturm have said for about a year that they will fight in the US.... Well?

If they are happy fighting over there then so be it. But it's hard to be recognized as a major star and or the legit champion of a div. when your oppostion is made up of un-rated fighters and no-names....

[Fenster]

To be fair, why the fuck would Sturm wanna go back to the US for a fight?

And who's gonna pay him to get shafted.. again?

[Violent Demise]

It's pretty simple why Abraham and Sturm go out there way to avoid live threats. They fight live threats, they lose there titles.

[CutMeMick]

To be fair, why the fuck would Sturm wanna go back to the US for a fight?

And who's gonna pay him to get shafted.. again?

Fens if that was the case then they need to grow some balls.

Sturms not the 1st fighter to loose a fight in that manner and he wont be the last. He doesn't hurt me or the sport I don't think anyone missing out on Sturm not fighting again out here. If he's making good money out there then good for him. But he wont get recognition fighting only out there and that type of opposition.

Some people think Miranda got jobbed but I bet you Miranda would jump allover if Joe gave him a shot at the titles in Wales.
Cause that's what fighters do they fight.

[Deanrw]

I have a funny feeling that Bute is going to be going the same thing. Fighting mainly in Montreal against fringe guys. I don;t blame the fighters, but their handlers simply look at them as an investment they need to protect. It is a shame really.

[Fenster]

To be fair, why the fuck would Sturm wanna go back to the US for a fight?

And who's gonna pay him to get shafted.. again?

Fens if that was the case then they need to grow some balls.

Sturms not the 1st fighter to loose a fight in that manner and he wont be the last. He doesn't hurt me or the sport I don't think anyone missing out on Sturm not fighting again out here. If he's making good money out there then good for him. But he wont get recognition fighting only out there and that type of opposition.

Some people think Miranda got jobbed but I bet you Miranda would jump allover if Joe gave him a shot at the titles in Wales.
Cause that's what fighters do they fight.

I agree Mickey.

Sturm will never be star boxer anywhere but Germany. Why would US promoters want him and why would he go if he doesn't need too.

Contrary to what most fans believe fighters that are willinging to face ANYONE, just to further their standing in boxing, are in a slim minority.. most are pretty smart or have smart advisers at least