How do Sturm and Abraham get away with such shitty title defenses?

[Kev]

I was thinking the same thing when I was selecting the (STAR) fight this week. I almost put it on Ouma Vs. K-9 but couldn't bring myself to do it.

Yeah it will take a brave man to put anything other than Abraham KO in that fight. I guess the interesting part will be to see how many people have a go at picking the round.

It's a horrible star fight imo as someone is bound to get a 30 point haul out of it but I realise you had no other choice.

I've got a sneaking feeling that this will be the week that Welsh Devil bounces back with a 60 point haul.

[CutMeMick]

Both Abraham and Sturm have said for about a year that they will fight in the US.... Well?

If they are happy fighting over there then so be it. But it's hard to be recognized as a major star and or the legit champion of a div. when your oppostion is made up of un-rated fighters and no-names....

[Fenster]

To be fair, why the fuck would Sturm wanna go back to the US for a fight?

And who's gonna pay him to get shafted.. again?

[Violent Demise]

It's pretty simple why Abraham and Sturm go out there way to avoid live threats. They fight live threats, they lose there titles.

[CutMeMick]

To be fair, why the fuck would Sturm wanna go back to the US for a fight?

And who's gonna pay him to get shafted.. again?

Fens if that was the case then they need to grow some balls.

Sturms not the 1st fighter to loose a fight in that manner and he wont be the last. He doesn't hurt me or the sport I don't think anyone missing out on Sturm not fighting again out here. If he's making good money out there then good for him. But he wont get recognition fighting only out there and that type of opposition.

Some people think Miranda got jobbed but I bet you Miranda would jump allover if Joe gave him a shot at the titles in Wales.
Cause that's what fighters do they fight.

[Deanrw]

I have a funny feeling that Bute is going to be going the same thing. Fighting mainly in Montreal against fringe guys. I don;t blame the fighters, but their handlers simply look at them as an investment they need to protect. It is a shame really.

[CutMeMick]

I have a funny feeling that Bute is going to be going the same thing. Fighting mainly in Montreal against fringe guys. I don;t blame the fighters, but their handlers simply look at them as an investment they need to protect. It is a shame really.

Butes a good fighter and if the fight comes off he better be ready for Librado Andrade.

This past weekend after Andrade got the stoppage Andrade smilied to the camera looked into it and said: "Hello to Canada, I love you"

Already knowing and willing to travel for the fight. You gotta love that.

[Deanrw]

I have a funny feeling that Bute is going to be going the same thing. Fighting mainly in Montreal against fringe guys. I don;t blame the fighters, but their handlers simply look at them as an investment they need to protect. It is a shame really.

Butes a good fighter and if the fight comes off he better be ready for Librado Andrade.

This past weekend after Andrade got the stoppage Andrade smilied to the camera looked into it and said: "Hello to Canada, I love you"

Already knowing and willing to travel for the fight. You gotta love that.

I hope Andrade wipes the floor with Bute. No adoptive Canuck pride here. I would be shocked if the fight happened though. Bute's camp seems really protective. I mean they have to be after re-animating Joppy's corpse for a fight.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Sturm has taken on some pretty risky opposition.
Risky in that, most of the boxing world haven't heard of them, but they are quite good fighters. Meaning he could lose to them and end up looking like a worse loss than it was in actuality.

As for Abraham, I had high hopes for him, but he's dropped the level of competition since miranda.
It's possible that they got a fright in that fight, but saw it as proof enough of his quality, Allowing him to coast.

[Fenster]

To be fair, why the fuck would Sturm wanna go back to the US for a fight?

And who's gonna pay him to get shafted.. again?

Fens if that was the case then they need to grow some balls.

Sturms not the 1st fighter to loose a fight in that manner and he wont be the last. He doesn't hurt me or the sport I don't think anyone missing out on Sturm not fighting again out here. If he's making good money out there then good for him. But he wont get recognition fighting only out there and that type of opposition.

Some people think Miranda got jobbed but I bet you Miranda would jump allover if Joe gave him a shot at the titles in Wales.
Cause that's what fighters do they fight.

I agree Mickey.

Sturm will never be star boxer anywhere but Germany. Why would US promoters want him and why would he go if he doesn't need too.

Contrary to what most fans believe fighters that are willinging to face ANYONE, just to further their standing in boxing, are in a slim minority.. most are pretty smart or have smart advisers at least