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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    Tito was definitely more devastating and thrilling than Oscar. After a while, Oscar fought the likes of Gatti, a past his prime Chavez, an already beaten by Trinidad Vargas AND Mayorga, etc. And Oscar has lost more megafights than Tito (see Mosley twice, Floyd, Hopkins) and always ducked Wright. So although Oscar has won belts in many different divisions, Tito has been the most consistently exciting, devastating, and thrilling than Oscar.
    The difference for me though is that Oscar was always competitive in his fights, and a couple of those he lost many thought he won.

    He was never embarrassed the way Tito was against Winky.

    But I agree Tito is an all time great. I thought he lost to Oscar which is why I probably favour Oscar. Tito although an offensive powerhouse was a little one dimensional at times.

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    Tito was definitely more devastating and thrilling than Oscar. After a while, Oscar fought the likes of Gatti, a past his prime Chavez, an already beaten by Trinidad Vargas AND Mayorga, etc. And Oscar has lost more megafights than Tito (see Mosley twice, Floyd, Hopkins) and always ducked Wright. So although Oscar has won belts in many different divisions, Tito has been the most consistently exciting, devastating, and thrilling than Oscar.
    The difference for me though is that Oscar was always competitive in his fights, and a couple of those he lost many thought he won.

    He was never embarrassed the way Tito was against Winky.

    But I agree Tito is an all time great. I thought he lost to Oscar which is why I probably favour Oscar. Tito although an offensive powerhouse was a little one dimensional at times.
    He was never embarassed by a winky, but he never fought a winky . Their careers are very similar in terms of results against the same opponents(and against each other), so I'd have it a dead heat.

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    i went with oscar. more titles, more competitive in big fights.

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Dela Golden get's my vote 6 weight world champ and I thought oscar schooled trinidad in there fight..Oscar threw some rounds away but i cannot beleive trinidad got the decision in that fight.
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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    I picked De La Hoya.

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    De La Hoya for me all day long...I didn't even look at resumes, big fights etc. I just stripped it to the bare bones of boxing ability and Oscar takes Tito all day every day. He had a lot more skill, wasn't as one dimensional and had K.O power to boot. At this stage in his career he was still competitive against the number 1 pound for pound fighter in the world and is still the biggest draw in boxing. Nuff said.

    It is gonna depend on what people define as a better career but you'd be hard pressed to find an area where Tito was better than Oscar. Whether it be money, competition, achievements and boxing ability.

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Oscar's Best Wins.

    Genaro Hernandez
    Jorge Paez
    Rafael Ruelas
    John John Molina
    Jesse James Leija
    Julio Cesar Chavez x2
    Pernell Whitaker
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    Ike Quartey
    Oba Carr
    Hector Camacho
    Arturo Gatti
    Fernando Vargas
    Luis Ramon Campas
    Felix Sturm = Not really though
    Ricardo Mayorga

    Titles at = Super Featherweight, Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Jr Middleweight, Middleweight.

    ODLH Argument = Oscar has much more achievements than Tito and overall i think he edges Tito in overall opposition plus he was never dominated in any of his losses unlike Tito.


    Felix Trinidad's Best Wins.

    Maurice Blocker
    Oba Carr
    Hector Camacho
    Freddie Pendleton
    ODLH
    Pernell Whitaker
    David Reid
    Ricardo Mayorga
    William Joppy
    Fernando Vargas

    Titles at = Welterweight 15 defenses if i remember right, Jr Middleweight,

    Tito Argument = He beat fighters like Carr, Vargas, etc. When they were in there prime, and some people may argue that by the time they fought ODLH they were shot fighters. Tito also made impressive number of title defenses at Welterweight. He also has a win over ODLH.

    Final Comments = I think ODLH wins this as you can see by those list's. Overall ODLH has beaten more quality opposition plus his achievements just leave Tito in the starting blocks if im honest. Someone mentioned Tito should be rated higher because he fought Wright, Hopkins, Jones. I don't understand that logic at all why should Tito be rated higher just because he fought good opposition but was pretty much dominated in all 3 of those fights, if we using that logic then ODLH should be rated higher because at least he was competitive in his losses to Mosley x2, Tito, Mayweather, Hopkins.
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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    I don't think it is even close...Tito was a great fighter but his resume pales in comparison to DLH...did Oscar lose many of his big fights? sure but he was never dominated but by B-Hop as was Triniadad...also DLH came back to fight again calling out the best he could after losses...Tito retired...(Lets save the excuses why... fact is fact)...DLH has won world titles in more divisions and spent more time in the rankings over all.....

    Don't get me wrong I am not saying anything bad about Tito I was a big fan until the second retirement after Winky beat him...IMO he did not do what a great fighter does and pick himself up to fight again...He was still in his prime years...

    It will be hard 20 yrs from now or even today to find a more successful fighter in the ring then DLH....
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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Very hard to call but I had to go with Tito in the end cuz De La Hoya lost too many fights in his prime . Tito only lost once IMO . The other two were when he was washed up and semi retired .

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Certainly a big part of your answer to this question depends on what you think about the numerous close decisions that Oscar has won/lost over his career.

    For example, I think Oscar lost to Whitaker, lost to Quartey, lost both times to Mosley, lost to Sturm, etc. I thought the Trinidad fight was a draw.

    Trinidad is one of the few fighters who has more than 40 fights without ever having a controversial ending. His record is accurate.

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Certainly a big part of your answer to this question depends on what you think about the numerous close decisions that Oscar has won/lost over his career.

    For example, I think Oscar lost to Whitaker, lost to Quartey, lost both times to Mosley, lost to Sturm, etc. I thought the Trinidad fight was a draw.

    Trinidad is one of the few fighters who has more than 40 fights without ever having a controversial ending. His record is accurate.

    Thaall subjective, IMO you have to judge a guy by the actual results, even if you think its bullshit. If its called a win, you can't call it a loss when determining someones success.

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Certainly a big part of your answer to this question depends on what you think about the numerous close decisions that Oscar has won/lost over his career.

    For example, I think Oscar lost to Whitaker, lost to Quartey, lost both times to Mosley, lost to Sturm, etc. I thought the Trinidad fight was a draw.

    Trinidad is one of the few fighters who has more than 40 fights without ever having a controversial ending. His record is accurate.
    This is how i had the fights.

    ODLH vs Whitaker = Draw
    ODLH vs Quartey = Quartey
    ODLH vs Mosley 1 = Mosley
    ODLH vs Mosley 2 = ODLH
    ODLH vs Sturm = Sturm
    ODLH vs Tito = Draw

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Oscar has had the better career but is in serious need of retirement! He was once a great fighter but enough is enough. Oscar De La Hoya, the promoter, is great for the sport, but Oscar De La Hoya, the boxer, needs to hang up his gloves.

    He's getting the fights he wants because of his name. He's LOST 3 of his last 5 fights (4 of his last 5 cause I don't think many thought he beat Sturm). If that was anyone else, he'd be fighting no namers on ESPN...

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    If you factor EVERYTHING in, I don't think there was ever a boxer who had a career as good as De La Hoya's. Guys like Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Tommy Hearns, ect achieved a higher level of greatness in history, but look at the toll it took on them. Look how long it took them to become stars. Oscar was a star before he fought his first pro fight. Look at the level of popularity he achieved. Look at the championships he won. Look at the MONEY he made per fight. Look at how he still has his health despite boxing for 16 years professionally. Look at how he parlayed his success in boxing into other areas, particularily promoting. Oscar is one of the few guys that BEAT boxing IMO. Lots of guys have success and make a ton of money in boxing, but boxing catches up with them and takes its toll.

    That being said, Tito has had an awesome career as well. Not living in Peurto Rico, its hard for me to determine the actual level of popularity he's reached over there, but I dont think he has reached the level of DLH.

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    Default Re: Who had the better career Tito or De La Hoya?

    Has to be De La Hoya. 6 weight world champ. The biggest name in the industry today and has beat other ATG such as Whittaker and Chavez and has fought how many former world champs?

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