LeftyLee and JT Rock it's time

[eagle]

Hey why don't you just let vd and lefty settle this, lay of lefty's back why don't you?

Coming from the guy who has been banned......
I thought Lefty's excuse was weak, so i told him so. All he did in return was abuse me. So now im involved, cos VD has proven me right.

Since when do u decide when i can debate against someone or not, im just backing up VD who i think is correct in what he says.

Hopefully they ban your ass for good soon.

Why do you want me ban for, what i do to you?

well if you wouldn't have got on leftys back in the first place you wouldn't need to be involved. let them two boys settle it. They both pm'ed me the messages, Im not trying to take sides though. You your the one thats not really needed but you come on like your going to get a peice of the bet from vd.

I hate it when guys dont honour bets.
You obviously dont mind tho....... Figures.....

[Julius Rain]

Coming from the guy who has been banned......
I thought Lefty's excuse was weak, so i told him so. All he did in return was abuse me. So now im involved, cos VD has proven me right.

Since when do u decide when i can debate against someone or not, im just backing up VD who i think is correct in what he says.

Hopefully they ban your ass for good soon.

Why do you want me ban for, what i do to you?

well if you wouldn't have got on leftys back in the first place you wouldn't need to be involved. let them two boys settle it. They both pm'ed me the messages, Im not trying to take sides though. You your the one thats not really needed but you come on like your going to get a peice of the bet from vd.

I hate it when guys dont honour bets.
You obviously dont mind tho....... Figures.....

hey i know both lefty and vd honor bets, take a look at the bottom of leftys post. That alone is proof he honors his bet. I don't know why you come at me like you know these two more than i do? and you think you know me? with that dot dot dot "figures" comment

[eagle]

Why do you want me ban for, what i do to you?

well if you wouldn't have got on leftys back in the first place you wouldn't need to be involved. let them two boys settle it. They both pm'ed me the messages, Im not trying to take sides though. You your the one thats not really needed but you come on like your going to get a peice of the bet from vd.

I hate it when guys dont honour bets.
You obviously dont mind tho....... Figures.....

hey i know both lefty and vd honor bets, take a look at the bottom of leftys post. That alone is proof he honors his bet. I don't know why you come at me like you know these two more than i do? and you think you know me? with that dot dot dot "figures" comment

Ok if Lefty honours bets why not this one? And dont tell me to ask him cos i have and he comes up with some bull shit technicality.

[Julius Rain]

I hate it when guys dont honour bets.
You obviously dont mind tho....... Figures.....

hey i know both lefty and vd honor bets, take a look at the bottom of leftys post. That alone is proof he honors his bet. I don't know why you come at me like you know these two more than i do? and you think you know me? with that dot dot dot "figures" comment

Ok if Lefty honours bets why not this one? And dont tell me to ask him cos i have and he comes up with some bull shit technicality.

well im not really the one to judge that, but when i bet with him i flat out made it clear we we're betting and not just talking trash.

[eagle]

hey i know both lefty and vd honor bets, take a look at the bottom of leftys post. That alone is proof he honors his bet. I don't know why you come at me like you know these two more than i do? and you think you know me? with that dot dot dot "figures" comment

Ok if Lefty honours bets why not this one? And dont tell me to ask him cos i have and he comes up with some bull shit technicality.

well im not really the one to judge that, but when i bet with him i flat out made it clear we we're betting and not just talking trash.

I think Lefty knew they were in a bet and squibbed out when he lost, then tryied to get out of it.....
Dont matter now really, i just hope he honours the bet otherwise evryone might start backing out.
I take back that i hope they ban u

[Violent Demise]

Why do you want me ban for, what i do to you?

well if you wouldn't have got on leftys back in the first place you wouldn't need to be involved. let them two boys settle it. They both pm'ed me the messages, Im not trying to take sides though. You your the one thats not really needed but you come on like your going to get a peice of the bet from vd.

I hate it when guys dont honour bets.
You obviously dont mind tho....... Figures.....

hey i know both lefty and vd honor bets, take a look at the bottom of leftys post. That alone is proof he honors his bet. I don't know why you come at me like you know these two more than i do? and you think you know me? with that dot dot dot "figures" comment

Lefty is bitching out. Call it for what it is. I already showed proof that he knew there was a bet. Hell he already had his sig ready to go. But things didn't go the way he planned. And now he's showing his true colors

[donnydarkoIRL]

Bad Form.

[leftylee]

I hate it when guys dont honour bets.
You obviously dont mind tho....... Figures.....

hey i know both lefty and vd honor bets, take a look at the bottom of leftys post. That alone is proof he honors his bet. I don't know why you come at me like you know these two more than i do? and you think you know me? with that dot dot dot "figures" comment

Lefty is bitching out. Call it for what it is. I already showed proof that he knew there was a bet. Hell he already had his sig ready to go. But things didn't go the way he planned. And now he's showing his true colors

VD can you please show were you AGREED to the bet. with a word like "Yes", "Deffo" "Your on" "Okay" etc but you never, you simply said "I'm gonna own you". IMO Owning means posting shit after the fight if your boy wins which he did and ripping me about it. Owning does not mean agreeing to a bet which you never. I don't need to have that sig becoz we never had a bet in the first place, I offered one but you never responded with an answer, end of. We have sigs for the Tarver and Calzaghe fights which we BOTH agreed too.

People say I bitch out of bets and JT Rock I was like the only one who gave you 5CC'S when Lacy beat Manfredo. Pride Of Boston went away for months just like Yoitsdan did. I had OwnedByICB for a week after Mayweather-Hatton and now I have Julius Rain on my sig from Pac-Marquez. Anyone says Lefty backs out of bets doesn't know what they're talking about.

[leftylee]

Ok if Lefty honours bets why not this one? And dont tell me to ask him cos i have and he comes up with some bull shit technicality.

well im not really the one to judge that, but when i bet with him i flat out made it clear we we're betting and not just talking trash.

I think Lefty knew they were in a bet and squibbed out when he lost, then tryied to get out of it.....
Dont matter now really, i just hope he honours the bet otherwise evryone might start backing out.
I take back that i hope they ban u

I think you know your a twat and your trying to cover it up by insulting me. It just ain't working though

[leftylee]

Lefty forgot about this PM. The red clear states Lefty knew there was a bet. He couldn't wait. He was damn near sure his boy was going to win. Problem is. His boy got knocked out. And now Lefty is showing everybody he lacks balls to follow through on a bet

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I seriousley cannot wait till I get a choice of your sig for a week.

I'm going to make it soooo fuckin sweet you will never bet with me again.

Read the Saddo p4p list thread. I'm just smashing on Hatton and how he should be removed for the good of the forum

I don't give two shits coz I'll be smashing on Cassamayor once he gets owned by Rocky, I've got something lined up for the day after and you will fuckin love it.

Katsidis ain't winning. I'm a own you on that fight. Than I'm going to own you on Tarver-Woods and Hopkins-Calzaghe. By the time I'm done with you your going to hate the name Violent Demise.
Haha we will see about that Demise!!!

Anyways am off, latersssssssss

Any comments Lefty?

Yep and you wanna know what that "Lined up thing was". I was planning to turn my profile into a Katsidis the Great space with pics from him beating Casa but he lost by a fluky left hook which Joel will never throw again in his career. I weren't referring to a sig by that comment and if you don't believe me I told PacStarightLeft about it, either him or Julius I ain't totally sure, but I deffo told one of them so PM one of those guys.

Another thing that "I can't wait till I get your choice of sig for a week.." was talking about Woods-Tarver and Cazlaghe-Hopkins as we never had a sig for Casa-Katsidis and even if we did which we never I always do sigs for a week and were VD came up with 2 weeks is beyond me .

BTW I need to change the sig of Julius, I have had the for ages but I haven't got round to changing it

[Rotten Apple]

Based on the PM's both posted it's pretty obvious there was a bet. And I think Lefty intended to honor the bet. But Violent Demise sig is just brutal. So Lefty is looking for a way out.

[JT Rock]

Interesting situation we have here.

VD Always lives up to his end of the bargain and is a man of his word whether its written confirmed or otherwise assumed.

Lefty has had 2 bets with me in which he honored so I have no complaints about him either.

BUT there seems to be some ambiguities that leads to believe that you guys had an assumed agreement which leans more on you had a bet than you didnt... Based on my experiences with VD he would have lived up to it if Casa was on the losing end. Maybe a good compromise would be Lefty showing some goodwill an elevating himself by accepting a bit milder sig from VD and in the process Lefty makes himself look like he is an honorable chap who dosent let technicality stand in the way of the universal man code of accepting defeat in any which way shape or form with honor and dignity

[Violent Demise]

The sig ain't changing. Either he takes it or he doesn't. Either way, he showed his true colors.

[leftylee]

The sig ain't changing. Either he takes it or he doesn't. Either way, he showed his true colors.

"I showed my true colours" WTF

[Violent Demise]

Why I not need answers for? I won the bet. Now get your sig and start using it.

Oh I'll definitely need an answer and BTW I'll be changing my sig alwrite, just to a big Ricky Hatton picture .

So are u gonna honor the bet or not?

People that dont honor bets, and there is written proof of the bet, should be banned for double the amount of time the bet was for.....can't stand when people Welsh on bets.

People that dont honor bets, and their is written proof of the bet, should be banned for double the amount of time the bet was for.....can't stand when people Welsh on bets.

I agree.
Lefty you'd better honor your bet with VD.

I do miss the name Change bets. The sigs are great but many have them not activated so not ALL see.

Have to chime in here on the Issue.Real simple and Point blank........A Bet is A bet!You are only as good as your word and It speaks volumes if someone should try to Lawyer and explain there way out of It. Hey....I agree VD can come up with some wicked foul ones but we knew what we were agreeing to PRE fight.This Is coming from The former "Vd's #1 Groupie" for two weeks Lol.

Not my fight but Lefty.......Be a man of your word bro,No excuses and splitting hairs.

I guess were about to see what kind of cloth Lee is cut from

On a side not VD has always been a man of his word, even though I have spanked him for the most part in our bets he still lives up to his end of the bargain without a complaint or a negoiation..

Thats what being a man is all about, being accountable for your words and actions you wanna step up well man up when you get slapped down, take your lumps and move on.

There is more honor in that, than to begoff and juke on a bet, quite a few run their mouths around here and are quick to rub your nose in it when your fighter loses but are ungracious losers when theirs is defeated.. Pretty fukin shameful

Like Spicoli says you only as good as your word

I ain't no betting man but someone here sounds like the dude that agrees to a measily 10$ bet and then avoids that person...either don't bet at all, or be a man and own up to it when you loose, there might have not been an explicit agreement but there sure as hell seems to have been one that was well implied and agreed upon by both parties...as someone else said lefty unless you got zombie cochran from the grave youd be left to hung in court...

Based on the PM's both posted it's pretty obvious there was a bet. And I think Lefty intended to honor the bet. But Violent Demise sig is just brutal. So Lefty is looking for a way out.

The sig ain't changing. Either he takes it or he doesn't. Either way, he showed his true colors.

"I showed my true colours" WTF

Your fellow posters think you should honor the bet.