Brunson breaks world knockout record

**Violent Demise** · 03-30-2008 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

Is Brunson any good or is he fighting guys from a soup deli?

Right now it's pure deli boys he's beating

**BoomBoom** · 03-30-2008 05:39 AM

His record is a joke and his managers should be ashamed. He was 18-0(1

and he fought a guy who was 3-14 kod in all of his losses. Valero fought better competiton and in my mind still holds the record. This is one of the major problems with boxing.

**Violent Demise** · 03-30-2008 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by BoomBoom

His record is a joke and his managers should be ashamed. He was 18-0(1

and he fought a guy who was 3-14 kod in all of his losses. Valero fought better competiton and in my mind still holds the record. This is one of the major problems with boxing.

I agree Brunson is beating bums. But Valero beat a bunch of garbage fighters as well. In fact other than Vincente Mosquera all of the fighters on Valero's resume are crap

**BoomBoom** · 03-30-2008 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by BoomBoom

His record is a joke and his managers should be ashamed. He was 18-0(1

and he fought a guy who was 3-14 kod in all of his losses. Valero fought better competiton and in my mind still holds the record. This is one of the major problems with boxing.

I agree Brunson is beating bums. But Valero beat a bunch of garbage fighters as well. In fact other than Vincente Mosquera all of the fighters on Valero's resume are crap

I agree that Valero beat weak opposition but not quite as bad as Brunson. Brunson has only fought one guy with a winning record in 19 fights. Thats pretty bad imo.

**THE THIRD MAN** · 03-30-2008 08:43 AM

Okay, i have seen him fight once and it lasted a minute so it's hard to say if he is any good or not. What happens when he steps up? They will have to test him sooner rather than later?

**WelshDevilRob** · 03-30-2008 10:54 AM

Brunson could keep going for years if he keeps fighting no hopers.

**Kev** · 03-30-2008 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

Brunson could keep going for years if he keeps fighting no hopers.

He could just go for the Butterbean style sideshow career and fight tomato cans his whole life I guess.

It would be great to look back and say you had a 100-0 record with 100 1st round KO's

**DaxxKahn** · 03-30-2008 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by BoomBoom

His record is a joke and his managers should be ashamed. He was 18-0(1

and he fought a guy who was 3-14 kod in all of his losses. Valero fought better competiton and in my mind still holds the record. This is one of the major problems with boxing.

I agree Brunson is beating bums. But Valero beat a bunch of garbage fighters as well. In fact other than Vincente Mosquera all of the fighters on Valero's resume are crap

I agree that Valero beat weak opposition but not quite as bad as Brunson. Brunson has only fought one guy with a winning record in 19 fights. Thats pretty bad imo.

Not too mention the guy he KO'd last had been ko'd in all previous 14 losses and was on a 8 loss streak and has never been past the third round in any of his 17 prior fights....IMO it is a travesty the guy even still has a license....Brunson's team should be ashamed..there is coddling a fighter then there is outright bullshit

**Kirkland Laing** · 03-30-2008 10:49 PM

Wasn't Valero's 18th KO for a world title?

**amat** · 03-30-2008 11:13 PM

It's sad because Brunson's handlers are doing him no service. He's a young fighter who has skills, a fast jab, fast feet and a good body attack with obvious power but instead of advancing him through the ranks, they are putting him in there with no hopers to keep this gimmick streak alive. He turned pro 3 years ago and because of this, still hasn't taken a step up.

It's sad because while he has his 15 minutes now, his handlers pretty much robbed him of an effective upbringing, now as he is being called to make a step up in competition, he is going to be unprepared against any formiddable competition they are going to make him pay for doing things like rushing in with his hands down or reaching with his left hand. Guys are supposed to learn these lessons on their way up, but how is a guy like Brunson supposed to learn that when the people around him aren't concerned about making him into a champion and bringing him up through the ranks the proper way?

Stepping up is about much more then positioning yourself to fight better fighters and eventually win a title. There are critical things about the pro game that every fighter must learn as they begin their pro careers. While it means nothing to us, it's essential for young fighters to make the step up from a 0-2-1 bum to get your first when to a crafty 13-7 journeyman who isn't going to lie down for you. Fighters base their entire pro careers on those fights because that's how you learn. It does no use for Brunson to fight these guys just to put a name down on the record. Now look where he is, he's made a name for himself against tomato cans and he is being asked to step up. And the crafty 13-7 journeyman isn't an option anymore, fans want to see the bigger names and Brunson loses out on that knowledge that those guys bring, knowledge that will do him better in the long run but because of this streak, he gets 0-2-1 everytime.

Ridiculous. Brunson is only 23 and he is probably making a little bit more a fight for this streak then he would otherwise so I'm sure he loves up but it is robbing him in the long run. 19 fights and not one challenge posed, that's not right for the fans or the fighter and it's his promoters, managers, trainers and everyone else cashing in on this to blame.

Here is a vid of the historic fight