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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Cotto has had nothing but tough opponents going back to Malignaggi. Malignaggi, Quintana, Urkal (who gave a good fight), Judah and Mosley is pretty impressive.

    Hopkins has probably had the toughest run though.

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Cotto has had nothing but tough opponents going back to Malignaggi. Malignaggi, Quintana, Urkal (who gave a good fight), Judah and Mosley is pretty impressive.

    Hopkins has probably had the toughest run though.
    Yeah it was a good run by Cotto but i can think of many others who have had a similiar run.
    Not to start a PBF v Cotto thread but i believe

    Judah, Baldomir, ODLH, Hatton, ODLH is just as tough as Cotto's run.

    DLH went
    Mosely
    Sturm
    Hopkins
    Mayorga
    Mayweather.

    Not too bad

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Trinidad went

    De La Hoya
    Reid
    Thiam
    Vargas
    Joppy
    Hopkins

    and they were all champions, I don't think anything beats that run

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bookkeeper View Post
    Trinidad went

    De La Hoya
    Reid
    Thiam
    Vargas
    Joppy
    Hopkins

    and they were all champions, I don't think anything beats that run
    I dont think that run beats any of the others i named. 2 greats in DLH and Hopkins. 1 good champ in Vargas, 3 also rans in Joppy, Thiam and Reid.

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bookkeeper View Post
    Trinidad went

    De La Hoya
    Reid
    Thiam
    Vargas
    Joppy
    Hopkins

    and they were all champions, I don't think anything beats that run
    I dont think that run beats any of the others i named. 2 greats in DLH and Hopkins. 1 good champ in Vargas, 3 also rans in Joppy, Thiam and Reid.

    I think your opinion is more based on hindsight than it was at the time, DLH was the biggest fight of the decade, Reid and Vargas were the next big thing's and should have never been thrown in there with Tito, nevertheless they were champions and were never the same after their fight with Tito, Thiam was a lower case champion ( non major ) but he was no journeyman, many thought Joppy was the best MW in the world, and we all know about Hopkins. The funny thing about your post is that Hopkins is one of your greats and rightfully so, but if Trinidad would have knocked him out in that fight he would not have been a great, when you look at it that way Joppy, Vargas, Reid would have been greats if they would have beaten Tito. He took on the best competition that was around at the time, and since he ruined them people look back in hindsight and say those guy's werent greats, but that's not the tune they were singing at the time.

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bookkeeper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bookkeeper View Post
    Trinidad went

    De La Hoya
    Reid
    Thiam
    Vargas
    Joppy
    Hopkins

    and they were all champions, I don't think anything beats that run
    I dont think that run beats any of the others i named. 2 greats in DLH and Hopkins. 1 good champ in Vargas, 3 also rans in Joppy, Thiam and Reid.

    I think your opinion is more based on hindsight than it was at the time, DLH was the biggest fight of the decade, Reid and Vargas were the next big thing's and should have never been thrown in there with Tito, nevertheless they were champions and were never the same after their fight with Tito, Thiam was a lower case champion ( non major ) but he was no journeyman, many thought Joppy was the best MW in the world, and we all know about Hopkins. The funny thing about your post is that Hopkins is one of your greats and rightfully so, but if Trinidad would have knocked him out in that fight he would not have been a great, when you look at it that way Joppy, Vargas, Reid would have been greats if they would have beaten Tito. He took on the best competition that was around at the time, and since he ruined them people look back in hindsight and say those guy's werent greats, but that's not the tune they were singing at the time.
    The point is BHOPs last 5 fights were against proven top fighters. Reid Thiam and Joppy were potentially great fighters but as u say in hindsight were found to be not that great.

    As for saying BHOP wouldnt have been great IF Tito had KO'd him, what a silly argument, the point is Nard Ko'd Tito and the rest is history. No ifs there.

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Agree with Eagle on Hopkins,..........How about Winky wrights last 5

    Hopkins
    Quartey
    J.Taylor
    Soliman
    Trinidad........(far from hard I know). Throw in 2 back to backs with Mosley before those 5.

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bookkeeper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post

    I dont think that run beats any of the others i named. 2 greats in DLH and Hopkins. 1 good champ in Vargas, 3 also rans in Joppy, Thiam and Reid.

    I think your opinion is more based on hindsight than it was at the time, DLH was the biggest fight of the decade, Reid and Vargas were the next big thing's and should have never been thrown in there with Tito, nevertheless they were champions and were never the same after their fight with Tito, Thiam was a lower case champion ( non major ) but he was no journeyman, many thought Joppy was the best MW in the world, and we all know about Hopkins. The funny thing about your post is that Hopkins is one of your greats and rightfully so, but if Trinidad would have knocked him out in that fight he would not have been a great, when you look at it that way Joppy, Vargas, Reid would have been greats if they would have beaten Tito. He took on the best competition that was around at the time, and since he ruined them people look back in hindsight and say those guy's werent greats, but that's not the tune they were singing at the time.
    The point is BHOPs last 5 fights were against proven top fighters. Reid Thiam and Joppy were potentially great fighters but as u say in hindsight were found to be not that great.

    As for saying BHOP wouldnt have been great IF Tito had KO'd him, what a silly argument, the point is Nard Ko'd Tito and the rest is history. No ifs there.
    From the span of September 99 to September of 01 Trinidad fought 6 champions strait in a two year span, three in which never tasted defeat, and two against MW champs that were naturally bigger than him. And you don't find that impressive, PUZZLING. Add on top of that the fights took place in three different weight divisions. Eagle we know one thing for certain your no Trinidad fan.


    P.S Ohh and just for the record I gave you SIX fights and not FIVE, hopefully this will hold even more weight than what I have already said
    Last edited by Bookkeeper; 04-04-2008 at 01:38 AM.

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Cotto has had nothing but tough opponents going back to Malignaggi. Malignaggi, Quintana, Urkal (who gave a good fight), Judah and Mosley is pretty impressive.

    Hopkins has probably had the toughest run though.
    Urkal was crap. He was fighting out his best weight

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Damn bookkeeper comes back for a day and already I'm wishing he'll fuck off back to wherever he's been these past few months.

    Is there a more irritating poster on all of saddos?

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Super Middleweight also acknowledge as Kessler's Kingdom when Calzaghe has retire

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Mayorga:

    Trinidad
    Piccirillo
    De La Hoya
    Vargas
    Cotto
    Cotto? He definitely did not fight Cotto.

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    Default Re: 5 hard fights in a row.

    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Mayorga:

    Trinidad
    Piccirillo
    De La Hoya
    Vargas
    Cotto
    Cotto? He definitely did not fight Cotto.
    at the time he was scheduled to fight him

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