How far can Amir Khan go as a pro???

[DaxxKahn]

For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....

In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....

At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.

In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....

I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....

With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through

[CutMeMick]

With Casamayor & Nate not getting any younger I think even if he looses now he's got a shit load of room to comeback from it.

Theres new breed of Lightweights and they are all young and up coming.

Nowadays too much is put in a loss. A loss is a loss you learn from it and you move on.

[Kev]

For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....

In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....

At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.

In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....

I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....

With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through

I think you are being a bit harsh Dax. I'd fancy Khan's chances against ANYONE at lightweight right now.

His chin is still the big question mark but apart from that he has everything.

He'd have a great chance against any of those fighters. What makes you think he wouldnt?

Apart from being floored by Willie Limond, in a fight which we should not forget that he got up to annihilate Limond what other weaknesses do you think he has?

[Memphis]

Im sure its been noted already, probably by me but I hate the way Amir falls across the ring throwing 3 or 4 straight punches. Its so untidy and I see someone with a bit more class just sitting and waiting for him to do it and cleaning his clock in the process.

[Althugz]

Im sure its been noted already, probably by me but I hate the way Amir falls across the ring throwing 3 or 4 straight punches. Its so untidy and I see someone with a bit more class just sitting and waiting for him to do it and cleaning his clock in the process.

....With his chin waaay up in the air, I agree completely Memphis.
Thing that worries me is that he does it after EVERY knockdown..he's going to do it one day after he scores a flash knockdown and his opponent is just gonna get up and take advantage of him rushing in with his chin out.

[amat]

Im sure its been noted already, probably by me but I hate the way Amir falls across the ring throwing 3 or 4 straight punches. Its so untidy and I see someone with a bit more class just sitting and waiting for him to do it and cleaning his clock in the process.

....With his chin waaay up in the air, I agree completely Memphis.
Thing that worries me is that he does it after EVERY knockdown..he's going to do it one day after he scores a flash knockdown and his opponent is just gonna get up and take advantage of him rushing in with his chin out.

I agree on this, and think it is just one of several different bad habits he has defensively. I hate that too, surely Casamayor or Cambell are crafty enough to take advantage of that.

Khan has looked impressive, he's a bit of a phenomenon, he is very fast, very powerful but with flaws. The lightweight division is STRONG at the moment and it's a bit on a whim to take Khan over EVERYONE. I think that's a bit over the top and not very realistic. There's more to boxing then good power and good speed and I don't think Khan does the finer things to make him a sure bet right now, not to mention that he hasn't been chin checked! That's a huge thing that people are losing in this thread, he hasn't faced anyone with notable power and seemingly purposely has been matched against soft punchers.

I love fighters with energy but certainly that energy is going to work against Khan at some point. Like Memphis said, that business with him chasing his opponents straight across the ring, it's amateurish. He's an excitable guy but that has to stop. However faded you believe Casamayor to be, do you really think he would have any problem sidestepping Khan and send him back to England with a KO loss? I don't.

And it's not just that, he is very much off balance when he throws the left hand, no matter what it is. The jab is decent, but he overreaches with it and doesn't pick it back up after he throws. Also the left hook, winds up a lot on it and several times during the Kristjansen fight he was spinning on his front foot after throwing and missing.

Essentially it's all about the right hand for Khan. I'll admit that it's a tremendous right and he does do a good job of putting the left hook after the right, but that's not enough and he's just too open on the defensive end for the right hand over the low left and the left hook when he reaches with the jab. Very leaky defense but so far that hasn't been a problem for him for a few different reasons, mainly because the guys put in front of him have been overwhelmed by his power and speed.

Fact is, we just don't know enough about Khan. Right now against guys with no power and who he's leagues better then, these flaws are there but not exploited. We haven't seen anyone try to back Khan up throughout the course of an entire fight. Kristjansen was in the 4th and 5th but Khan didn't have to respect his power, so he was able to battle back. Think Nate Campbell wouldn't try to move Khan backwards the entire fight and not give him any space for the right hand? Based off his last fight, a 36 year old Nate Campbell would have no problem matching Khan's energy.

And what about the chin? We don't know yet. As Saddo has pointed out, he has yet to be matched with someone above 50% with their KO percentage. We know Khan can be hit, but no one has had the power to make those hits count. Between Casamayor, Campbell and Pacquiao there is a lot of power to go around at lightweight at the top.

I'll give you a guy who I think is much more ready for the big stage then Khan, Anthony Peterson. A guy with great speed, confidence and power but without those bad habits.

I think Khan would fall short if matched right now against those at the top. He's just got to tighten up the defense for my liking. That's not bagging on him, I just think he has some lessons to learn between now and a title shot.

[Fenster]

For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....

In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....

At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.

In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....

I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....

With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through

And drunk as fuck.

Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.

Have you ever even seen him fight?

[Bomp]

He has a lot of talent, and some very good attributes, but just hasn't fought often enough and been taken into deep waters to iron out the mistakes. Against the likes of Campbell and Casa I'd pick him to win a few early rounds, but they will eventually catch up to him and KHO. But as Mick said, a loss shouldn't be the end of the world and would probably be a good reality check for him.
i get the impression he thinks the fight game is easy from his experiences so far, and am not convinced he'll be able to swim in deep waters. A fight with Romanov would be good for the summer, and bridge the gap between what he's been fighting to date with the top guys in the division. Rees would be good for him as well, he'll be a tough nut to crack at the weight, and though limited he's relentless enough to be a pain in the arse for Khan.
Even if he gets these fights, I feel it'll be too little to late fro him to genuinely have a chance to beat on of the top guys in the autumn.

[ono]

I get the impression that he might struggle if he comes up against a natural 135lber who is still firing back after about 8 rounds.

I'm not sure how he would mentally deal with it.

Like when he fought St Clair i got the impression that if he was fighting a natural 135lber who could hit, he might have been up shit's creek.

Same as when he fought that Drizlane or whatever he was called....that big french guy.

Having said that.....when he really needed it, he pulled some shots out of his arse when Limond had him hurt. Same as Saturday night, he pulled it out the bag when he needed to.

He has tremendous finishing ability. Offensively he is breathtaking at times. He needs work on his defence and the public also need to accept that it's ok for him to go 12 rounds. He can't blow everyone out early.

His chin seems ok to me. The Limond shot was a temple shot, so that has no bearing on his chin in actual fact. His power seems good, his speed is unreal. His defence needs work.

I think in about 3 or 4 fights he is ready for a world title. There's nobody at 135 who i'd be worried about, but there's no need to rush imo.

[ono]

It's also nice to see that he is progressing much better than some of the UK fans had predicted and hoped earlier in this thread

[Kev]

It's also nice to see that he is progressing much better than some of the UK fans had predicted and hoped earlier in this thread

I would like it to be known that my early comment was not in fact written by me at all.

[DaxxKahn]

For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....

In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....

At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.

In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....

I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....

With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through

And drunk as fuck.

Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.

Have you ever even seen him fight?

I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....

Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....

In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....

At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.

In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....

I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....

With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through

And drunk as fuck.

Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.

Have you ever even seen him fight?

I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....

Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....

He's progressing but I don't know if he'll EVER be ready for most of them. I give him credit for what he's done so far... Not really that much. Baring some huge jump in progression... He will probably jus be "good"...

My oppionion...

[Fenster]

For Kahn to ever win a world title they would have to cottle him for a long time and wait the top tier out...In hopes they retire or move out of a division...When I say top tier I include the 140lb and SFW divisions in case he should move up or for some crazy reason down....

In the LW division we have Casamayor...Looking shot now a days but still enough to beat Kahn...Juan Diaz...To strong for Kahn, Nate Campbell beats him handily, In another five or so fights it would be a good fight for him to have with maybe a somewhat shot Freita...I do pick him over Zahir Raheem Zahir Raheem....

At 140 he is eaten alive by Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik beats him easily as well...So does Urango, Holt, Harris.

In the SFW division he beatsd no one in the top ten even within 3 years time....also some of those guys will be at 135 by then so that puts a dmper on those wishes of taking over the LW division as the top dogs fade off.....

I may be a bit over critical but I just don't see him beating any of the top tier in those 3 divisions...Unless he suddenly improves 100% and continues to do so in each bout....

With that being said he can always snag a title if he should happen to get the right champion on the right night ALA Carlos Baldomir...Other then that I see him as a Zahir Raheem type...he will spoil one or two fights for someone but the momentum will not carry through

And drunk as fuck.

Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.

Have you ever even seen him fight?

I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....

Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....

Right, lets see. You have Casaymayor, Diaz, Campbell, Freitas, Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik, Urango, Holt, Harris and NO-ONE in the top 10 superfeather for THREE YEARS - (taken from the Ring) Pac, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur, Juraez, Fana, Balyoi and NANTHACHAI, right?

For starters, St. Clair beat Balyoi (IBF holder) just a few fights back. Khan won every single round against St. Clair beating him with ease yet you'd give Khan NO CHANCE against Balyoi, right?

Graham Earl has a win over the current European champ and Top 10 rated Yuri Romanov. Earl nearly had Katsids knocked out before Casamayor did. Khan smashed Earl to bits in 90 seconds but that means NOTHING regarding Khans standing amongst the world's lightweights - according to dax, right?



How many Khan fights have you seen?

[DaxxKahn]

And drunk as fuck.

Cause this is complete and Utter nonsense.

Have you ever even seen him fight?

I'm sorry you have me confused for guys on here who base their opinions off boxrec. You tell me what Kahn has done to show he can beat the names I mentioned? Because he knocked out Graham Earl in the first? Or because he beat Gairy St Clair who had never fought outside of Austrailia and Africa before that fight?.....Please do highliht these things.....

Amir Kahn isn't beating any of the top tier fighters anytime soon....deal with it....He is handfed and won't be ready for any of the top tier guys at the pace he is going for sometime....

Right, lets see. You have Casaymayor, Diaz, Campbell, Freitas, Hatton, Witter, Malignaggi, Hopkins, Torres or Kotelnik, Urango, Holt, Harris and NO-ONE in the top 10 superfeather for THREE YEARS - (taken from the Ring) Pac, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur, Juraez, Fana, Balyoi and NANTHACHAI, right?

For starters, St. Clair beat Balyoi (IBF holder) just a few fights back. Khan won every single round against St. Clair beating him with ease yet you'd give Khan NO CHANCE against Balyoi, right?

Graham Earl has a win over the current European champ and Top 10 rated Yuri Romanov. Earl nearly had Katsids knocked out before Casamayor did. Khan smashed Earl to bits in 90 seconds but that means NOTHING regarding Khans standing amongst the world's lightweights - according to dax, right?



How many Khan fights have you seen?

AWWWW Little Fenster getting tired?,,,,Maybe it is nap time little boy because you are whine like one....You sit and argue with yourself....Just because I don't think Kahn is going to be elite your ranting and tantrum is not going to change that....Your arguement and going off in left field about Who St. Clair beat 5 fights ago means nothing...period SHIT!!!!!!!

WTF does Graham Earl almost knocking out Katsidis have to do with anything?....It doesn't....Earl did not knock Katsidis out and the fight did not go past the 5th with a W in Katsidis favor...So do we all know what would have, should have, could have means?....It means it did not happen.....I could have, would have , should have opted for penis enlargement surgery when it first came out and then I could have, would have and should have been a porn star but I opted it as a crazy operation that needed some mental unstability to have done so I didn't...now I am married with a wife and mini van full of kids....


You are bringing in all kinds of shit and trying to bring in all kinds of this guy did this and almost did that and Kahn beat them to make a case for yourself and it is not working so save yourself embaressment and give it up while you are ahead.....

Look at the post in this topic I am not the only one who thinks the same thing....

Tell you what....Lets say Kahn beat Casamayor, David Diaz etc...then went to 140 and by some crazy reason Malignaggi enterd the fight on Heroin....and Kahn beat him...Fact is with the way he keeps his chin up Hatton and Witter put him into the canvas in 5 rds....he may be half Arab or what ever middle eastern country his roots are from but he is no Naseem Hamed where his power can allow him to do that against the elite.......Pacquiao blast him out in 3.....but I suppose that wouldn't happen either right?....C'mon Fenster lets hear your arguement on that one.....

Are you on The Kahn fucking Payroll....Come back when your arguement is worth a dime and you can avoid a tantrum throwing in shit I never said