Padwork

**RozzySean** · 04-07-2008 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Scrap

If you take the first shot away from a pad trained Fighter the rest of the combo goes out the window. The annalising that takes place on his face is a Picture, lets start again

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That's a great way of putting it.

Here's the thing, with all the "fitness" boxing that's happening in the States, lots of people become overtrained on the pads. Then if they want to take the next step, they have to overcome that approach.

**Salty** · 04-08-2008 01:33 PM

I really can't remember the last time I was on the pads, we just don't do them in our gym as our trainer doesn't believe in them. I guess for the reasons expressed here.

**donnydarkoIRL** · 04-08-2008 01:34 PM

What do you do as an alternative Salty?

**Salty** · 04-08-2008 01:46 PM

We do a lot more partner work instead, we'll get directions say a combination for the attacker, while the defender might have to parry the first few and then counter punch. It slowly builds up so after about half an hour it becomes light sparring and then we will do the proper sparring. Which i find works well for me as I hate the pads, due to the fact that I tend to overthink things. Where as in sparring I find myself seeing combinations i've been taught rather than being told what to punch.

**donnydarkoIRL** · 04-08-2008 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

We do a lot more partner work instead, we'll get directions say a combination for the attacker, while the defender might have to parry the first few and then counter punch. It slowly builds up so after about half an hour it becomes light sparring and then we will do the proper sparring. Which i find works well for me as I hate the pads, due to the fact that I tend to overthink things. Where as in sparring I find myself seeing combinations i've been taught rather than being told what to punch.

Yeah I do a good bit of that.
Seems to be popular in the states.

I need more ideas I think.

**Scrap** · 04-08-2008 10:58 PM

Surely the idea is for the body to adapt to the process of correct action of thought so long as the process is correct its the incorrect thought that causes trouble as regards correct, level ,, distance, and angles. Sparring is a great way to learn it doesnt need to be Heavy. Doing drills with a partner is a very good way and can be a good learning drill, a pair of senseable lads eventually working at speed is terrific to watch, we do a lot of it reccommended. There is a form of stretch with Plyometric adaptions which I have found to be excellent for bonding Neurons at the same time interesting stuff.

**Ring Rat** · 04-09-2008 07:08 AM

great read scrap !

**Howlin Mad Missy** · 04-09-2008 10:39 AM

Good posts salty and scrap.

Pads and bags are tools and can be misused. I was determind to hook off the jab, spent the time rehersing it on the bag before I was able to land it well.

TBH I've found lots of good stuff in the american boxing manuals that I've not seen so much in UK gyms, more structure....maybe they did it when I wasn't round.

For example on the heavy bag, there's lots more you can do. It's all valid but left to our own devices we tend to get lazy, stick with what we know and work on our strengths.
3 different drills all working different modes all useful for boxing.
1 round just using the jab moving in and out or range, focus on speed and footwork.
1 round plant your feet, 3 punch combo focus on power.
1 round continuous punching

The same with sparring, most of the time I've seen two people just get thrown in the ring and they're left to get on with it

might make you tough but not necessarily the most technical of fighters. How about 1 round just throwing the jab, 1 person attacks with 3 punch combos (light) the other defends. Set drills practicing jab-cross-slip(parry, sway, stepback) It goes on and on.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be hard sparring but not everytime you step in the gym. It should be progressive and have an aim to it.

I'll get off my soapbox now

**RobbyCook** · 07-30-2009 04:41 PM

I am learning to box and at the same time trying to help a friend of mine stay sharp and train for an upcoming fight. He has been training me to train him on the pads and it has been great. There are days when we work only 3 or 4 combinations for 12-15 rounds and he has sharpened up a lot. I throw shots at him during our workouts, full shots, and that seems to help him offensively and defensively. It makes the pad work a little more interactive. Everyone has someone to emulate, and I believe in my man Freddie Roach. If he uses pads (having trained 21 belt holders), then I think I am going to. I am not being argumentative, just trying to stimulate conversation. I need all the help I can get being new, and appreciate all the input and experience you have.