Man made Global Warming

[El Kabong]

What does evolution have to do with man-made global warming?

Well if evolution is a natural positive thing that has always and will always happen on Earth, then who the fuck are we to stop what would eventually cause evolution

AND if humans evolved FROM something then couldn't we rationally go to the idea that humans could evolve INTO something


The climate has changed many MANY times before anyone ever dreamed up pollution.

All of you have been brainwashed, go and pay your TV taxes and drive your hybrids and worry about the ice caps and glaciers.....Climate change would happen even if humans weren't here and that's my point.

[:::PSL:::]

What does evolution have to do with man-made global warming?

Well if evolution is a natural positive thing that has always and will always happen on Earth, then who the fuck are we to stop what would eventually cause evolution

AND if humans evolved FROM something then couldn't we rationally go to the idea that humans could evolve INTO something


The climate has changed many MANY times before anyone ever dreamed up pollution.

All of you have been brainwashed, go and pay your TV taxes and drive your hybrids and worry about the ice caps and glaciers.....Climate change would happen even if humans weren't here and that's my point.

What?!

Ok my friend. I'll just let you be with your beliefs. Sadly, I have to disagree with you on this one.

[El Kabong]

Well Pac, I am saying if humans didn't exist at all and therefore there would be no pollution or overload of CO2/ greenhouse gasses or whatever....Climate change would still occur and it is historically proven so.


So Pac, I question you again, man made global warming?


It's a load of shit....sure we should look after our evironment and be responsible in our everyday lives HOWEVER when the climate changes anyway just don't forget, I TOLD YOU SO

[Kirkland Laing]

What does evolution have to do with man-made global warming?

Well if evolution is a natural positive thing that has always and will always happen on Earth, then who the fuck are we to stop what would eventually cause evolution

AND if humans evolved FROM something then couldn't we rationally go to the idea that humans could evolve INTO something


The climate has changed many MANY times before anyone ever dreamed up pollution.

All of you have been brainwashed, go and pay your TV taxes and drive your hybrids and worry about the ice caps and glaciers.....Climate change would happen even if humans weren't here and that's my point.

What does man-made global warming have to do with evolution?

[Andre]

What does evolution have to do with man-made global warming?

Well if evolution is a natural positive thing that has always and will always happen on Earth, then who the fuck are we to stop what would eventually cause evolution

AND if humans evolved FROM something then couldn't we rationally go to the idea that humans could evolve INTO something


The climate has changed many MANY times before anyone ever dreamed up pollution.

All of you have been brainwashed, go and pay your TV taxes and drive your hybrids and worry about the ice caps and glaciers.....Climate change would happen even if humans weren't here and that's my point.

What does man-made global warming have to do with evolution?

I think its another play on words, planetary evolution is not the same as our own physical evolution and thats not the same as our mental or spiriutal evolution as a whole either, they just overlap.

[AdamGB]

last week in England we had almost summer time weather in a lot of the country... this week we've had sub zero temperatures and blizzards.

I'm obviously with Lyle though... despite observing the changes in English weather and the wealth of scientific fact available.

[donnydarkoIRL]

last week in England we had almost summer time weather in a lot of the country... this week we've had sub zero temperatures and blizzards.

I'm obviously with Lyle though... despite observing the changes in English weather and the wealth of scientific fact available.

Ditto.

Yesterday it was snowing, today, its sunny and warm....oh wait it's actually raining now.

[El Kabong]

"If the ozone layer gets thinner, ultraviolet radiation sears the earth, so what? Ultraviolet radiation is good for life. It's powerful energy. It promotes mutation, change. Many forms of life will thrive with more UV radiation. Many others will die out. Do you think this is the first time that's happened?"


Mock me if you must but this isn't the first time the granola guard has gotten the people up in a frenzy about the environment.

If you want to buy into it then fine by me, go grab yourself a copy of "The Day After Tomorrow" and curse the advances that society has made.

So I guess all the advances people have made in making fuel cleaner and making things more efficient just isn't cutting it, it's had no effect. And if that's the case, what the hell can we do about it now?

And call me crazy but I really don't buy into carbon offsets, it's like medieval times when people would buy indulgances from the Church...it's all a racket.

If you guys don't want to open your minds up to the thought that MAYBE, just maybe climate change isn't man made then don't let me stop you, all I am saying is that the climate has changed naturally every other time it has changed so why would it be different this time?

Scientists have disagreed about this for quite some time...oh yes there are scientists who disagree

[donnydarkoIRL]

But Lyle, it's not actually climate change at all.

It's over exposure.
It's not a controlled natural occurence it's a triggered increase in the extremities of our weather as a result of the breakdown of our natural protective membrane.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

But Lyle, it's not actually climate change at all.

It's over exposure.
It's not a controlled natural occurence it's a triggered increase in the extremities of our weather as a result of the breakdown of our natural protective membrane.

and Donny has the key.

Yes climate changes occur with or without us. Most scientists agree that our last hundred years or so of industrialisation has sped these changes up, now to what % is very much open to debate, some consider it to be insignificant.

Yes species naturally go extinct generally through changes in habitat/ predator ratios etc......what I and many others have an issue with is that as humans we are so self centered, egotisical and arrogant that we don't actually give a shit that we are actively causing species to go extinct, for example, I don't want the Albatross, which has been going about it's business for many years, to end up dead because I'm too bone idle to dispose of plastics responsibly.

[donnydarkoIRL]

But Lyle, it's not actually climate change at all.

It's over exposure.
It's not a controlled natural occurence it's a triggered increase in the extremities of our weather as a result of the breakdown of our natural protective membrane.

and Donny has the key.

Yes climate changes occur with or without us. Most scientists agree that our last hundred years or so of industrialisation has sped these changes up, now to what % is very much open to debate, some consider it to be insignificant.

Yes species naturally go extinct generally through changes in habitat/ predator ratios etc......what I and many others have an issue with is that as humans we are so self centered, egotisical and arrogant that we don't actually give a shit that we are actively causing species to go extinct, for example, I don't want the Albatross, which has been going about it's business for many years, to end up dead because I'm too bone idle to dispose of plastics responsibly.

Well said Missy

[Von Milash]

Lyle, you're absolutely right....

but the things is... we can't actually know FOR SURE what the real reason is now can we?

Even if it is an orbital effect, we still need to clean up this shithole!

[El Kabong]

Yes but when the government gets in your house by telling you what kind of light bulbs you can use it's gone a bit too far.


The government can try to tell me what to do in my house and my reply will always be "Fuck off"


And raising taxes on energy and restricting the production of energy via taxes on the energy companies is not the way to go BECAUSE they aren't finding any substitutes for fossil fuels they are just making things tough now and not even worrying about what are we going to use in the future and to some extent you can't force this change to happen because finding and adapting to new kinds of fuels will take lots of time and effort.

There's plenty of oil for us for thousands of years and coal and natural gas and sunlight and wind and geothermal energy to use as well....these corn subsidies to produce ethanol and E85 are ridiculous and are already costing us plenty of money as farmers only want to grow corn now to get the government money.

Right now we should focus on converting the US to a nuclear energy run country which will really clean up.

[Andre]

Yes but when the government gets in your house by telling you what kind of light bulbs you can use it's gone a bit too far.


The government can try to tell me what to do in my house and my reply will always be "Fuck off"


And raising taxes on energy and restricting the production of energy via taxes on the energy companies is not the way to go BECAUSE they aren't finding any substitutes for fossil fuels they are just making things tough now and not even worrying about what are we going to use in the future and to some extent you can't force this change to happen because finding and adapting to new kinds of fuels will take lots of time and effort.

There's plenty of oil for us for thousands of years and coal and natural gas and sunlight and wind and geothermal energy to use as well....these corn subsidies to produce ethanol and E85 are ridiculous and are already costing us plenty of money as farmers only want to grow corn now to get the government money.

Right now we should focus on converting the US to a nuclear energy run country which will really clean up.

Im pro nuclear too , the fear based opposing sides are from the old 1960s experemental and fuck up stages school of thought ,we are far advanced from that now.
JUst need to make third world countries have external governing bodies to oversee the mainatance and running of their antiqeuated shit.

Oil is another matter ,I belive its in the ground for the benifit of the ground and the atmosphere. We live over the top of hell ,boiling lava and more ,its hot down there and we are removing the buffer between it and us.
Natural lubricant ,plate shifting, more earthquakes, hello.

[El Kabong]

The plate shifting is far lower in the crust than where the oil is.


Plate techtonics are caused by Magma currents, not by lack of oil...if oil was down there then the Earth would be on fire.


I hate how people say "Oil is a nonrenewable resource"....it got made somehow didn't it So who's to say it won't get made again, especially when all the trash we make gets burried and put under emense pressure and heat.