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[El Kabong]

If you don't understand that Russia would get a huge deal (bargain price oil) by helping Iran while they were blockaded by the British then what can I say....you're a retard.

[Kirkland Laing]

If you don't understand that Russia would get a huge deal (bargain price oil) by helping Iran while they were blockaded by the British then what can I say....you're a retard.

The USSR have been a net exporter of oil since before WW2. That means they produce more than they use and sell the rest. Iran historically didn't get on too well with Russia and would have made a deal with the Brits rather than deal with the Russians. Iran have to export their oil via the Persian gulf and would have had no alternative but to eventually negotiate. The US didn't wait and overthrew their democratically elected government, then went on an ovethrowing-governments spree in the rest of the world. So this was just one small part of an overarching picture of US imperialism.

[El Kabong]

OK the idea of Iran being Communist and in cahoots with Russia would make America nervous and England sold that to the US and the US had to intervene.

You're still at fault

[Kirkland Laing]

OK the idea of Iran being Communist and in cahoots with Russia would make America nervous and England sold that to the US and the US had to intervene.

You're still at fault

So you're back to claiming Britain dictates US foreign policy.

The reason the US intervened was that your new president wanted Iran and its oil to remain in the western sphere of influence and so overthrew the government. Nothing whatsoever to do with th Brits asking America to do it.

[El Kabong]

Did I say that England dictates American policies? No I fucking didn't...you PURPOSELY gave us bad intelligence on Iran to serve yourselves and in doing so you drug us into Iran.


If things were going so well with Iran then why the fuck did they nationalize the oil fields?

Allow me to field that question, it's because you promised them schools and hospitals and money and you gave them NOTHING you shafted them on the schools and hospitals and you gave them very little money.

[Kirkland Laing]

Did I say that England dictates American policies? No I fucking didn't...you PURPOSELY gave us bad intelligence on Iran to serve yourselves and in doing so you drug us into Iran.


If things were going so well with Iran then why the fuck did they nationalize the oil fields?

Allow me to field that question, it's because you promised them schools and hospitals and money and you gave them NOTHING you shafted them on the schools and hospitals and you gave them very little money.

Nobody gave you "bad intelligence" and there isn't any historical evidence to back up your ridiculous claim. We didn't start using "bad intelligence" as a reason for interfering in oil-rich countries till this century.

And it's "dragged" not "drug", John boy.

[El Kabong]

Did or did not England ask The United States of America for assistance in Iran multiple times before both the CIA AND MI6 installed the Shah into power?

Here's a timeline of events:
#1 England makes oil deal with Iran (then Persia) 1901

#2 Winston Churchill partially nationalizes the Anglo-Persian Oil Company 1913

#3 Iran wished to either renegotiate a deal with the APOC or allow for more countries to make use of their oil fields (for a price of course)

#4 A deal was not made and the Depression hit and left Iran earning a meager 366,782 pounds from their oil fields while at the same time being charged 1,000,000 pounds in taxes to the British Government (you never learn about taxes do you?). A drop in profits also left the Iranians feeling like they were getting shafted and Iran demanded the cancellation of the D'Arcy consession 1931-1932

#5 England was forced to renegotiate after their hearing at The Hauge faired poorly. The Iranians still didn't take advantage of their opportunity to cash in.

#6 The AIOC (formerly the APOC) under the Attlee government took 85% of the Iranian oil profits which lead to the 1951 nationalization of the Iranian oil fields.

#7 A 50/50 split of the profits was suggested and rejected by both the British and Iranian governments and direct negotiations between the two nations ceased.

#8 England thought of attempting a coup but as The United States was in the midst of the Korean War, President Harry Truman sided against it and refused to help the British. That being the case England began a blockade and embargo of Iran trying to force them to side in England's favor which virtually cut off any sale of Iranian oil.

#9 When President Eisenhower was elected England came back to the United States and instead of saying "This is in England's economic and colonial intrests to have a coup in Iran" as they did years before, this time they used an approach which played upon America's dislike of Communism.

#10 August 19, 1953 the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran was overthrown and the Ayatollah Koshani was placed into power.


I can't blame you for your confusion because I'll be damned if England knows fuck all about having ALLIES....but I guess you're finding out now aren't you ...."Oh did we DRAG you into a War?"......"Ooops, our bad"