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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    p4p is impossible to judge. Do you go on resume? if so, how far back? or do you go on how unbeatable they look?

    As a fan of Joe I rate him high, IMO he's technically better than Pacqiao with fewer exploitable weaknesses, but behind Floyd in the same department. If he beats B-hop, IMO his resume over last few years compares favourably with Floyd's, but well behind the names on Pac's record.
    I still have Floyd No.1 due to his remarkeble talent, then Pac second then Joe. After that it gets even hazier.

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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    p4p is impossible to judge. Do you go on resume? if so, how far back? or do you go on how unbeatable they look?

    As a fan of Joe I rate him high, IMO he's technically better than Pacqiao with fewer exploitable weaknesses, but behind Floyd in the same department. If he beats B-hop, IMO his resume over last few years compares favourably with Floyd's, but well behind the names on Pac's record.
    I still have Floyd No.1 due to his remarkeble talent, then Pac second then Joe. After that it gets even hazier.
    That's pretty much what I would say too.

    Beating Hopkins doesn't mean Joe could beat Floyd P4P. I'd CONFIDENTLY back Cazlaghe to beat Pac P4P whether he beats Hopkins or not.
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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    No way Mayweather has beaten many more quality opponents than Calzaghe, he also has many more achievements. And plus P4P Mayweather would beat Calzaghe so how exactly should Calzaghe be above Mayweather P4P ??

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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    No way Mayweather has beaten many more quality opponents than Calzaghe, he also has many more achievements. And plus P4P Mayweather would beat Calzaghe so how exactly should Calzaghe be above Mayweather P4P ??
    ALL TRUE
    also how the hell is beating LACY - KESSLER - 43 YEAR OLD HOPKINS ,
    a better resume than Mayweathers ?? i dont think its close.!!!
    a better resume than PACMAN'S 3 fights with Morales / 2 with MAB / 2 with JMM , Calazghe's resume isnt even withing a light year of that ,
    Joe is a very good fighter , proven - but hes now chasing the rainbows he should have been many years ago , hes wasted his good years for me.

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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    He won to Kessler , but in that Div. still having more great and competitive challenger , after this fight with B.H. , he need to fight with others Champ and classified #1 in that Div.....


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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    I think if Calzaghe was to beat Hopkins soundly, ie knock him out or
    totally dominate him I would put him at no2 p4p, but still wouldnt put him ahead of Mayweather, be intresting if De La Hoya was to ko Floyd though

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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    If Joe beats Hopkins then yeah he'd be p4p number 1 and If Hop beats Joe I'd put him at number 1 .

    Floyds inactive and his next 2 fights are likley to be against Oscar and Hatton again so fighting guys coming off losses doesnt do it for me. Its Joes time now . Move over Floyd .

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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    I would say yes if Joe beats Bhop in a dramatic fashion.

    PBF is there on talent and his resume. However he hasn't won many of those in dominating fashion. The goal is to beat the other guy senseless. He doesn't seem to want to fight, just to win a decision.

    In my book PBF is a bit of an underachiever. Pac is there for his tenacity and his opposition has been by far the most difficult. But considering Joe's domination of Lacy, solid win over Kessler, then winning convincingly over Bhop would earn it in my book.

    Mind you it's dependent on a stellar performance against another top rated guy. And as always it's temporary. I just have a little more regard for the guys that really go for broke. In my opinion it's what PBF has been missing, although we did see some of that in the Hatton fight.

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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    One of the things that I think really hurts his chances at p4p is that he has only been a champion in one division.

    Plus the supermiddleweight division is not the star studded division that say a welterweight or a middleweight is.

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    Default Re: It's time for JC to take the crown from PBF?

    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post

    PBF is there on talent and his resume. However he hasn't won many of those in dominating fashion. The goal is to beat the other guy senseless. He doesn't seem to want to fight, just to win a decision.
    Floyd has dominated PLENTY of his opposition, are you kidding?! The only guys of recent that he didn't dominate.. were the two JLC fights.. Oscar (SD).. Zab Judah is borderline.. and other than that he outclassed plenty of his opposition.. i think floyd has legitimately been hurt ONCE.. and that's not counting when he broke his hand.. i think it was corley who caught him with a shot and floyd fell into the ropes and was stunned for a minute, but then came right back.. if thats not dominating fashion then i don't know what is.

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