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I like B-Hop more, but unless he can walk on water I can't see him beating Joe. He just can't keep up anymore.

That being said if he does he's my pick for best middleweight EVER.
IMO doing this will put him above Monson, above Hagler, even above Greb.
Hopkins was a great MW, but how can he be considered the best ever based on what he has done in a different weight class? I don't see how beating Calzaghe at LHW makes him the best MW ever.
I think it definitely counts for something towards his legacy at MW if he can move up to LH, capture a title, and then come down to SM and beat the undefeated, unified, long reining Champ. All after dominating at MW for so long with 20 defenses, and after turning 40!

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I would never bet money against Bernard, but I can't see him winning a decision, unless he makes it extremely rough, and somehow gets Joe out of his game, while slowing the pace, preferably with some bone-crushing body shots. Rather unlikely, considering Joe is also smart fighter. And Joe is relentless, unlike Taylor, Tarver and Wright. I also can't see a ko for either. After watching countdown to Hopkins-Calzaghe, BHOP is definately taking the right approach to the fight (especially with the conditioning), but that is the question, does the old man have one left? His last couple of fights, IMO, he was only able to fight 2 mins of each round. Although he won, he was fighting two guys that were passive in their style, and didn't force the issue like Joe does. Joe brings alot of energy, and we will see if the wiley old man can pull one out of his hat, or if Joe's energy is too much.

Joe by decision. But like I said, I wouldn't at all be suprised, if BHOP finds a way.
You can't really say that Winky is passive especially of late, and look at how BHOP took him out of his game and dictated the fight. BHOP is definitely the master at getting the fight to be on his terms.

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I just thought it was funny how when Calzaghe was trying to trash talk Hopkins defending himself to Hopkins comment "who have you beaten?".. Calzaghe said something like.. "who've you beaten? all little guys!!"

"De la hoya, little guy, Trinidad, little guy".. and i know that those guys ARE smaller than Hop, but it was just funny that he was telling the guy who defended the MIDDLEWEIGHT championship 20 times, that he fought all "little guys" WELL NO SHIT HE WAS IN A LOWER WEIGHT CLASS

but just about everyone that he fought is comparable to his size.. Hopkins wasn't a small middleweight but it wasn't like he was known as a KO artist.. Taylor is a big middleweight, and i'd say he's bigger than Hop..

He fought Roy Jones who is prob about the same size as him.. he fought Tarver who is def bigger..

Not that i have to justify Hopkin's career, i just thought it was a funny remark..
I think this was just Joe attempting to use his own psychology on BHOP; trying to put the idea in his mind that he's the smaller man.

BHOP is so crafty that you can never count him out, but I still have to go with Calzaghe UD. One thing that makes me less sure of BHOP is the way his legs are looking lately. Is it just me or are they looking old in those workout vids?