Anyone Want To Doubt Joe Calzaghe Again??

[GodofBoxing]

Some of you need to take your head out of you know what...

Just because you were saying Hopkins would win doesnt make you blind to the obvious fact that Calzaghe won...

Im not a big fan of either man and i wern't really picking either man to win i was 50-50 on the fight. Hopkins landed the cleaner better blows and won the first 4 rounds clearly IMO and plus lets not forget the 10-8 round, then he won another 2 rounds making it 114-113 to Hopkins.

Wot? where did he win 6 rounds? wtf were you watching...?

[ICB]

Some of you need to take your head out of you know what...

Just because you were saying Hopkins would win doesnt make you blind to the obvious fact that Calzaghe won...

Im not a big fan of either man and i wern't really picking either man to win i was 50-50 on the fight. Hopkins landed the cleaner better blows and won the first 4 rounds clearly IMO and plus lets not forget the 10-8 round, then he won another 2 rounds making it 114-113 to Hopkins.

Wot? where did he win 6 rounds? wtf were you watching...?

I can't remember the exact rounds but Hopkins for certain won the first 4 rounds IMO, he then won the 11th, and he also won the round where he stunned Calzaghe at the end of the round. You can easily have Hopkins winning 6 rounds.

[GodofBoxing]

Im not a big fan of either man and i wern't really picking either man to win i was 50-50 on the fight. Hopkins landed the cleaner better blows and won the first 4 rounds clearly IMO and plus lets not forget the 10-8 round, then he won another 2 rounds making it 114-113 to Hopkins.

Wot? where did he win 6 rounds? wtf were you watching...?

I can't remember the exact rounds but Hopkins for certain won the first 4 rounds IMO, he then won the 11th, and he also won the round where he stunned Calzaghe at the end of the round. You can easily have Hopkins winning 6 rounds.

First of all no he didn't clearly win the first 4 rounds...The second was a draw at best..the fourth was definitely a Calzaghe round as also mentioned by all commentators as a turning round of the fight.

So a punch at the end that pushes Jc back wins a round? after having been taking combinations throughout it?

And noway did hopkins win the 11th..the guy was tiring all thru the later rounds...

He took 5 mins...i mean a full 5 mins faking a low blow...pathetic really

[ICB]

Wot? where did he win 6 rounds? wtf were you watching...?

I can't remember the exact rounds but Hopkins for certain won the first 4 rounds IMO, he then won the 11th, and he also won the round where he stunned Calzaghe at the end of the round. You can easily have Hopkins winning 6 rounds.

First of all no he didn't clearly win the first 4 rounds...The second was a draw at best..the fourth was definitely a Calzaghe round as also mentioned by all commentators as a turning round of the fight.

So a punch at the end that pushes Jc back wins a round? after having been taking combinations throughout it?

And noway did hopkins win the 11th..the guy was tiring all thru the later rounds...

He took 5 mins...i mean a full 5 mins faking a low blow...pathetic really

Hopkins won the first 4 rounds IMO he did land the much more effective blows in those rounds. And Calzaghe was struggling to get any punches off. Calzaghe did comeback strong and won majority of the rounds after that but i still feel Hopkins did manage to win another 2 rounds after the first 4 rounds, making it 114-113 Hopkins.

Your saying no way this and no way that basically saying your opinion is correct when it isn't. Those rounds were close and i gave them to Hopkins on the cleaner more effective punches. I have my opinion you have yours none of us are wrong because its just an opinion not a fact.

[GodofBoxing]

I can't remember the exact rounds but Hopkins for certain won the first 4 rounds IMO, he then won the 11th, and he also won the round where he stunned Calzaghe at the end of the round. You can easily have Hopkins winning 6 rounds.

First of all no he didn't clearly win the first 4 rounds...The second was a draw at best..the fourth was definitely a Calzaghe round as also mentioned by all commentators as a turning round of the fight.

So a punch at the end that pushes Jc back wins a round? after having been taking combinations throughout it?

And noway did hopkins win the 11th..the guy was tiring all thru the later rounds...

He took 5 mins...i mean a full 5 mins faking a low blow...pathetic really

Hopkins won the first 4 rounds IMO he did land the much more effective blows in those rounds. And Calzaghe was struggling to get any punches off. Calzaghe did comeback strong and won majority of the rounds after that but i still feel Hopkins did manage to win another 2 rounds after the first 4 rounds, making it 114-113 Hopkins.

Your saying no way this and no way that basically saying your opinion is correct when it isn't. Those rounds were close and i gave them to Hopkins on the cleaner more effective punches. I have my opinion you have yours none of us are wrong because its just an opinion not a fact.

I'm saying noway because if you give hopkins this fight after being outworked, outpunched and outscored then judging a fight must be quite an abstract thing..

[ICB]

First of all no he didn't clearly win the first 4 rounds...The second was a draw at best..the fourth was definitely a Calzaghe round as also mentioned by all commentators as a turning round of the fight.

So a punch at the end that pushes Jc back wins a round? after having been taking combinations throughout it?

And noway did hopkins win the 11th..the guy was tiring all thru the later rounds...

He took 5 mins...i mean a full 5 mins faking a low blow...pathetic really

Hopkins won the first 4 rounds IMO he did land the much more effective blows in those rounds. And Calzaghe was struggling to get any punches off. Calzaghe did comeback strong and won majority of the rounds after that but i still feel Hopkins did manage to win another 2 rounds after the first 4 rounds, making it 114-113 Hopkins.

Your saying no way this and no way that basically saying your opinion is correct when it isn't. Those rounds were close and i gave them to Hopkins on the cleaner more effective punches. I have my opinion you have yours none of us are wrong because its just an opinion not a fact.

I'm saying noway because if you give hopkins this fight after being outworked, outpunched and outscored then judging a fight must be quite an abstract thing..

See i hate people like you who try and cause an argument, i actually do boxing and have been watching boxing for a decade. I know how to score fights and i don't appreciate that comment from you, because it really is an easy comeback and all i have to say is you don't know how to score a fight either, but i won't because like i said its just an opinion no one is wrong. Hopkins was out punched but he still landed the more cleaner effective punches and the knockdown gave him the edge in the scoring IMO.

[GodofBoxing]

Hopkins won the first 4 rounds IMO he did land the much more effective blows in those rounds. And Calzaghe was struggling to get any punches off. Calzaghe did comeback strong and won majority of the rounds after that but i still feel Hopkins did manage to win another 2 rounds after the first 4 rounds, making it 114-113 Hopkins.

Your saying no way this and no way that basically saying your opinion is correct when it isn't. Those rounds were close and i gave them to Hopkins on the cleaner more effective punches. I have my opinion you have yours none of us are wrong because its just an opinion not a fact.

I'm saying noway because if you give hopkins this fight after being outworked, outpunched and outscored then judging a fight must be quite an abstract thing..

See i hate people like you who try and cause an argument, i actually do boxing and have been watching boxing for a decade. I know how to score fights and i don't appreciate that comment from you, because it really is an easy comeback and all i have to say is you don't know how to score a fight either, but i won't because like i said its just an opinion no one is wrong. Hopkins was out punched but he still landed the more cleaner effective punches and the knockdown gave him the edge in the scoring IMO.

wow didn't know you were the only person that boxes around here.....

as I said and as I will repeat..cleaner punches would win you a fight if you were landing the same amount or maybe a couple less a round....but not when the opponent outpunches you by a big margin..which was the case here....IMO

[chip]

Hopkins won the first 4 rounds IMO he did land the much more effective blows in those rounds. And Calzaghe was struggling to get any punches off. Calzaghe did comeback strong and won majority of the rounds after that but i still feel Hopkins did manage to win another 2 rounds after the first 4 rounds, making it 114-113 Hopkins.

Your saying no way this and no way that basically saying your opinion is correct when it isn't. Those rounds were close and i gave them to Hopkins on the cleaner more effective punches. I have my opinion you have yours none of us are wrong because its just an opinion not a fact.

I'm saying noway because if you give hopkins this fight after being outworked, outpunched and outscored then judging a fight must be quite an abstract thing..

See i hate people like you who try and cause an argument, i actually do boxing and have been watching boxing for a decade. I know how to score fights and i don't appreciate that comment from you, because it really is an easy comeback and all i have to say is you don't know how to score a fight either, but i won't because like i said its just an opinion no one is wrong. Hopkins was out punched but he still landed the more cleaner effective punches and the knockdown gave him the edge in the scoring IMO.

Have to agree as this is the same logic that all the pac fans were saying because Pac got the knockdown against JMM another close fight he got the decsion when everyone knows who won that fight too.

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Wot? where did he win 6 rounds? wtf were you watching...?

I can't remember the exact rounds but Hopkins for certain won the first 4 rounds IMO, he then won the 11th, and he also won the round where he stunned Calzaghe at the end of the round. You can easily have Hopkins winning 6 rounds.

First of all no he didn't clearly win the first 4 rounds...The second was a draw at best..the fourth was definitely a Calzaghe round as also mentioned by all commentators as a turning round of the fight.

So a punch at the end that pushes Jc back wins a round? after having been taking combinations throughout it?

And noway did hopkins win the 11th..the guy was tiring all thru the later rounds...

He took 5 mins...i mean a full 5 mins faking a low blow...pathetic really

That was indeed a sad moment from Bernard.

I'm glad Cortez wasn't dumb enough to take some points away from Joe.

[JLAQ]

Joe Calzaghe IS the p4p king. Manny has to beat David Diaz to regain his throne.

[Pugilistic]

joe looked rubbish, hopkins exposed him

[JLAQ]

joe looked rubbish, hopkins exposed him

Jeebus.

[RP33]

Wot? where did he win 6 rounds? wtf were you watching...?

I can't remember the exact rounds but Hopkins for certain won the first 4 rounds IMO, he then won the 11th, and he also won the round where he stunned Calzaghe at the end of the round. You can easily have Hopkins winning 6 rounds.

First of all no he didn't clearly win the first 4 rounds...The second was a draw at best..the fourth was definitely a Calzaghe round as also mentioned by all commentators as a turning round of the fight.

So a punch at the end that pushes Jc back wins a round? after having been taking combinations throughout it?

And noway did hopkins win the 11th..the guy was tiring all thru the later rounds...

He took 5 mins...i mean a full 5 mins faking a low blow...pathetic really

first off, hopkins didn't take combinations throughout the round.. but joe WAS throwing combinations throughout the round.. They were all poorly thrown slapping punches that were lucky if they grazed hopkins shoulders.. The most significant punch of the round was the right from hopkins at the end of the round.. Whether or not it happened at the end of the round, or within the first 10 seconds, it was still the most significant punch BY FAR!! in that round.. It was Joe's fault for trying to steal a round in the last 5 seconds and opening up with slapping lefts and rights and he got caught with two hard shots.. Easy round to score if you ask me..

I had Hopkins winning the first 3 rounds without question, and then at the very least two more rounds after that.. i'd have to go back and watch again, but i definitely had 5-6 rounds for hopkins.

[southakron314]

Kind of like the Ray Lenord and Hagler fight.......I thought the other guy won. Hopkins hurt him a few times. Hopkins put him on his ass. If I could just work on a great defense maybe I too can flail my arms every where and get knocked down then hurt a few times and still win.

[armin]

Icb then according to your logic paulie should never win a fight cause even his power shots are slaps. I honestly saw calzaghe outhustle hop and beat him at his own dam game at times, I think I even saw frustration in b hop in the 10th round or so. So calzaghe throws 5 and say lands 2 solid, thats still more than bhops 1 for 2. On the inside cal was doin the same shit with his head that b hop does, I just saw cal as the all around better fighter and 116-111 honestly seemed pretty reasonable. Oh and I'm not welsh or anything before I'm accused of bias, ha