Calzaghe - Hopkins The Facts!!

[GodofBoxing]

add in that one is pressing the fight, one is tieing it up, even those punch stats being completely equal, you have that it Joe's favour also..

Hopkins did land some very good punches though.. By far he had at least the 10 nicest punches of the fight.

Hopkins had the best punch of the night, the knock down.

BUT FOR HEAVENS SAKE!!! DID YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE THE HOOK THAT CAME IN AND ROCKED BHOP IN EITHER THE 10TH OR 11TH WHERE HE HAD TO CLINCH TO SURVIVE

WAS I WATCHING A DIFFERENT FIGHT?

It sickens me this whole 'calzaghe didnt throw good punches' comments... LOOK AT ROUNDS 10 AND 11...HOPKINS WAS ROCKED!!! HOW CAN YOU SAY THEY WERENT GOOD PUNCHES THAT DIDNT DAMAGE HOPKINS?

Its like it has to be spelled out over and over again, just look at those rounds please!

no, you were not...it's just that some people choose to close their eyes when their favourite fighter gets hit...the guy gave 6 rounds to hopkins I mean 6! where and how did he get these 6 rounds I have no idea..

[Pugilistic]

compubox stats are unrealible

[Gandalf]

Giving 6 rounds to Hopkins is warped....

Ultimately it was closer than I thought it would be. Ive just finished rewatching it on video. No doubts that Joe did more than enough. It was his superior workrate that did seperate them.

Joe just didnt do very much in the first 3 rounds. Therafter it was Joe all the way.

[bambamdaddio]

Giving 6 rounds to Hopkins is warped....

Ultimately it was closer than I thought it would be. Ive just finished rewatching it on video. No doubts that Joe did more than enough. It was his superior workrate that did seperate them.

Joe just didnt do very much in the first 3 rounds. Therafter it was Joe all the way.

Which is pretty much as I saw it too, and at the end of the day, you can have what stats you like brought up,

But they mean nothing, this does tho,

FACT: JOE WON, AND HE WAS RIGHTLY DECLARED THE WINNER AFTER THE SCORE CARDS HAD BEEN HANDED IN AND COUNTED UP,

AND THAT WAS DONE IN FLOPKINS BACKYARD TOO ....

Get over it, or live with it, but learn to accept it because it's happened, it's gone and now a part of Boxing history..

[Gandalf]

Giving 6 rounds to Hopkins is warped....

Ultimately it was closer than I thought it would be. Ive just finished rewatching it on video. No doubts that Joe did more than enough. It was his superior workrate that did seperate them.

Joe just didnt do very much in the first 3 rounds. Therafter it was Joe all the way.

Which is pretty much as I saw it too, and at the end of the day, you can have what stats you like brought up,

But they mean nothing, this does tho,

FACT: JOE WON, AND HE WAS RIGHTLY DECLARED THE WINNER AFTER THE SCORE CARDS HAD BEEN HANDED IN AND COUNTED UP,

AND THAT WAS DONE IN FLOPKINS BACKYARD TOO ....

Get over it, or live with it, but learn to accept it because it's happened, it's gone and now a part of Boxing history..

Tried to rep you but was told to "spread the rep". I will catch up later.

I did want Joe to stop Hopkins so we wouldnt have had any room for the whingers and excuse makers. But it wasnt to be. As it is Calzaghe continues to be unbeaten and marches on. As that final bell sounded part of me wished that we still had 15 rounders because Joe looked fresh as a daisy and could have gone on indefinately.

Anyway, he won by 4 points by my reckoning. Not even that close. Now bring on Jones Jr. Personally im not really into the Jones Jr fight because I think he is way over the hill but if thats what Joe wants then who can begrudge him a payday at 36?

[Phil]

ugly fight, fair play to JC he deserved the decision. Cortez should have done something about Hopkins holding early on, could have made it a much better fight,

[Beanflicker]

Punchstat numbers are misleading, everyone should know that by now. Two or three slapping, unclean punches do not equal one flush straight right hand up the pipe. This isn't the amateurs, professional fights are judges on CLEAN, EFFECTIVE punching. And in that catagory, Hopkins was the victor.

[GAME]

Nobody has ever landed that many punches on Hopkins and that includes a prime roy Jones back in the day when Hopkins was easier to hit .

Says alot . Joe won comfortably

[Beanflicker]

Nobody has ever landed that many punches on Hopkins and that includes a prime roy Jones back in the day when Hopkins was easier to hit .

Says alot . Joe won comfortably

To be fair though, Jones never threw anywhere near 700 punches in that stinker. Both guys fought cautiously, Jones wouldn't even commit to a jab.

[GAME]

Nobody has ever landed that many punches on Hopkins and that includes a prime roy Jones back in the day when Hopkins was easier to hit .

Says alot . Joe won comfortably

To be fair though, Jones never threw anywhere near 700 punches in that stinker. Both guys fought cautiously, Jones wouldn't even commit to a jab.

Agreed Winky was a volume puncher though and he never had teh sucess Joe did . Hop seemed to get tired and Joe began turning on the class even taunting Hop after the bell . You could see from then on it was all Joe.

[WelshDevilRob]

I'll be honest and say that was a terrible fight. One man just backed away all fight while the other kept missing. I said before that both men have seen better days and that was evident last night - neither is in their prime.

But at the end of the day only one of them was trying to win the fight and force the action = Joe Calzaghe.

He did well to comeback and win the fight after the flash knockdown in the 1st.

It was a terrible fight and that was due to a clash of styles. The best man won and he did it in the other mans backyard. (Hopkins company were the promoter's of the fight)

Bernard Hopkins didn't do anything much offensively while Calzaghe was the dominant force in the ring. He controlled center ground - that's why he won.

Joe has won a fight in the States against the No.1 Light Heavyweight in the World, got up off the floor and then been in control of the fight - another tick for Joe in the criteria for greatness.

[GodofBoxing]

Here is some more for you dissolutioned hopkins fans...Check out the last part 3 lines


Punch statistics

Total thrown (Hopkins/Calzaghe): 468/707

Total landed: 127/232

Percentage landed: 27/33

Jabs thrown: 93/224

Jabs landed: 11/45

Percentage landed: 12/20

Power punches thrown: 375/483

Power punches landed: 116/187

Percentage landed: 31/39

[ICB]

Here is some more for you dissolutioned hopkins fans...Check out the last part 3 lines


Punch statistics

Total thrown (Hopkins/Calzaghe): 468/707

Total landed: 127/232

Percentage landed: 27/33

Jabs thrown: 93/224

Jabs landed: 11/45

Percentage landed: 12/20

Power punches thrown: 375/483

Power punches landed: 116/187

Percentage landed: 31/39

Calzaghe landed 187 power punches ?? no way on this earth.

[Hulk]

I think that Hopkins won the fight. Honestly no way Joe took 7 rounds by slapping and missing. Sure he pressed the fight but what did he accomplish?

[JLAQ]

I think that Hopkins won the fight. Honestly no way Joe took 7 rounds by slapping and missing. Sure he pressed the fight but what did he accomplish?

Slapping and pressing is a million times better than getting slapped and running.