Calzaghe - Hopkins The Facts!!

[Phil]

ugly fight, fair play to JC he deserved the decision. Cortez should have done something about Hopkins holding early on, could have made it a much better fight,

[Beanflicker]

Punchstat numbers are misleading, everyone should know that by now. Two or three slapping, unclean punches do not equal one flush straight right hand up the pipe. This isn't the amateurs, professional fights are judges on CLEAN, EFFECTIVE punching. And in that catagory, Hopkins was the victor.

[GAME]

Nobody has ever landed that many punches on Hopkins and that includes a prime roy Jones back in the day when Hopkins was easier to hit .

Says alot . Joe won comfortably

[Beanflicker]

Nobody has ever landed that many punches on Hopkins and that includes a prime roy Jones back in the day when Hopkins was easier to hit .

Says alot . Joe won comfortably

To be fair though, Jones never threw anywhere near 700 punches in that stinker. Both guys fought cautiously, Jones wouldn't even commit to a jab.

[GAME]

Nobody has ever landed that many punches on Hopkins and that includes a prime roy Jones back in the day when Hopkins was easier to hit .

Says alot . Joe won comfortably

To be fair though, Jones never threw anywhere near 700 punches in that stinker. Both guys fought cautiously, Jones wouldn't even commit to a jab.

Agreed Winky was a volume puncher though and he never had teh sucess Joe did . Hop seemed to get tired and Joe began turning on the class even taunting Hop after the bell . You could see from then on it was all Joe.

[Beanflicker]

Yeah I thought it was a very impressive performance by Joe... by both guys, actually.

[ICB]

Those punch stats don't tell the whole story the first 4 rounds Hopkins won IMO and maybe Calzaghe did land few more punches in some rounds but Hopkins still landed more effective blows of the rounds he won, just say for instance in the rounds Calzaghe won he landed 20 more punches than Hopkins in those rounds, but in the rounds he lost he landed a few more punches than Hopkins, but Hopkins landed the much more effective blows ?? punch stats can be misleading and they are in this case as well.

The hypocrisy

Those punch stats aint so great when they don't go in your favour.. right Icey?

What are you talking about Fenster ?? have i not said in the past that Compubox are misleading ?? did i not say that Spinks landed more than Holmes in there rematch by punch stats ?? but that was one of the biggest robberies of all time.

[ICB]

Those punch stats don't tell the whole story the first 4 rounds Hopkins won IMO and maybe Calzaghe did land few more punches in some rounds but Hopkins still landed more effective blows of the rounds he won, just say for instance in the rounds Calzaghe won he landed 20 more punches than Hopkins in those rounds, but in the rounds he lost he landed a few more punches than Hopkins, but Hopkins landed the much more effective blows ?? punch stats can be misleading and they are in this case as well.

WTF? Is this guy living in an alternate reality or what?

No your just a hater and i'll give you some more bad rep when i get time your a tool.

[Fenster]

Those punch stats don't tell the whole story the first 4 rounds Hopkins won IMO and maybe Calzaghe did land few more punches in some rounds but Hopkins still landed more effective blows of the rounds he won, just say for instance in the rounds Calzaghe won he landed 20 more punches than Hopkins in those rounds, but in the rounds he lost he landed a few more punches than Hopkins, but Hopkins landed the much more effective blows ?? punch stats can be misleading and they are in this case as well.

The hypocrisy

Those punch stats aint so great when they don't go in your favour.. right Icey?

What are you talking about Fenster ?? have i not said in the past that Compubox are misleading ?? did i not say that Spinks landed more than Holmes in there rematch by punch stats ?? but that was one of the biggest robberies of all time.

OK.. good for you Ice.

A few months back I didn't know, for certain, whether i got it through to you that punch stats are unreliable and can be very misleading

[WelshDevilRob]

I'll be honest and say that was a terrible fight. One man just backed away all fight while the other kept missing. I said before that both men have seen better days and that was evident last night - neither is in their prime.

But at the end of the day only one of them was trying to win the fight and force the action = Joe Calzaghe.

He did well to comeback and win the fight after the flash knockdown in the 1st.

It was a terrible fight and that was due to a clash of styles. The best man won and he did it in the other mans backyard. (Hopkins company were the promoter's of the fight)

Bernard Hopkins didn't do anything much offensively while Calzaghe was the dominant force in the ring. He controlled center ground - that's why he won.

Joe has won a fight in the States against the No.1 Light Heavyweight in the World, got up off the floor and then been in control of the fight - another tick for Joe in the criteria for greatness.

[GodofBoxing]

Here is some more for you dissolutioned hopkins fans...Check out the last part 3 lines


Punch statistics

Total thrown (Hopkins/Calzaghe): 468/707

Total landed: 127/232

Percentage landed: 27/33

Jabs thrown: 93/224

Jabs landed: 11/45

Percentage landed: 12/20

Power punches thrown: 375/483

Power punches landed: 116/187

Percentage landed: 31/39

[ICB]

Here is some more for you dissolutioned hopkins fans...Check out the last part 3 lines


Punch statistics

Total thrown (Hopkins/Calzaghe): 468/707

Total landed: 127/232

Percentage landed: 27/33

Jabs thrown: 93/224

Jabs landed: 11/45

Percentage landed: 12/20

Power punches thrown: 375/483

Power punches landed: 116/187

Percentage landed: 31/39

Calzaghe landed 187 power punches ?? no way on this earth.

[GodofBoxing]

Here is some more for you dissolutioned hopkins fans...Check out the last part 3 lines


Punch statistics

Total thrown (Hopkins/Calzaghe): 468/707

Total landed: 127/232

Percentage landed: 27/33

Jabs thrown: 93/224

Jabs landed: 11/45

Percentage landed: 12/20

Power punches thrown: 375/483

Power punches landed: 116/187

Percentage landed: 31/39

Calzaghe landed 187 power punches ?? no way on this earth.

.....yes way...

[ICB]

Here is some more for you dissolutioned hopkins fans...Check out the last part 3 lines


Punch statistics

Total thrown (Hopkins/Calzaghe): 468/707

Total landed: 127/232

Percentage landed: 27/33

Jabs thrown: 93/224

Jabs landed: 11/45

Percentage landed: 12/20

Power punches thrown: 375/483

Power punches landed: 116/187

Percentage landed: 31/39

Calzaghe landed 187 power punches ?? no way on this earth.

.....yes way...

Umm no way why don't you stop copying a pasting and actually watch the fight again instead of relying on punch stats which are inaccurate. Calzaghe never landed that many power punches, most of his punches were slapping punches when he threw combinations, he did land some solid left hands but no way did he land that many power punches.

[the wiz]

I agree, there is no way Joe landed that many "power punches" I've always wondered what the punchstat counts as a power punch. Joe landed a lot of punches, but let's face it, they aren't solid punches he's landing. A lot are arm punches and some slaps.

I've never been a big fan of punchstat. That tool Jim Lampley can't get enough of it.