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    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher View Post
    i allways thought the guy sounded like the rock,


    but i just realized that barock sounds like 'the rock'


    he could do shit like, 'barock says...' and 'do u smell what barock is cookin'

    i want this man to be president

    HOLY FUCKING FUCK HE SAID IT


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaxHjxOlo4
    Last edited by SalTheButcher; 04-22-2008 at 03:18 AM.

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    OMG that was great

    <<<<<<<<<<< MCCAINIAC hahahah

    McCain pulling out Hulk Hogan might just cancel out his 100 years comment

    Good call Sal, Barack Says 08

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    Anyone who thinks we're going to be in a WAR for 100 years doesn't need to have the right to vote because they are fucking retarded. All McCain said with that 100 years comment is that the United States is going to make sure Iraq is a sovreign nation and our intrests are looked after as it would be idiotic to set up a government only to have them taken over by Iran in a couple months.


    As for Barrack...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEF8LvsqYh4


    "Hillary don't like him....Barrack Obama" hahahaha




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRu49lTdOQA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Anyone who thinks we're going to be in a WAR for 100 years doesn't need to have the right to vote because they are fucking retarded. All McCain said with that 100 years comment is that the United States is going to make sure Iraq is a sovreign nation and our intrests are looked after as it would be idiotic to set up a government only to have them taken over by Iran in a couple months.

    As for Barrack...

    That's not the point. We aren't going to be there for 100 years but we're closing in on half a century in Korea and no one wants that.

    The point is that McCain is not open to a timetable which is what the issue is here because it's unrealistic to think a heavy troop prescence for an undetermined amount of time is going to solve anything in Iraq.

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    ....South Korea likes us being there....Tiawan likes us being there (our bases in the Pacific). If we're NOT in Korea then what's stopping Kim Jong Il from taking the entire country over?


    We have bases EVERYWHERE...we're still in Germany and Japan


    It's idiotic to have a set date...if we did everything would be fine and then bam we're back over there. It shouldn't be a set DATE it should be a set group of assurances that there is a lasting peace.


    I mean believe what you want but I'm just saying....our military force is needed in places around the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Anyone who thinks we're going to be in a WAR for 100 years doesn't need to have the right to vote because they are fucking retarded. All McCain said with that 100 years comment is that the United States is going to make sure Iraq is a sovreign nation and our intrests are looked after as it would be idiotic to set up a government only to have them taken over by Iran in a couple months.

    As for Barrack...

    That's not the point. We aren't going to be there for 100 years but we're closing in on half a century in Korea and no one wants that.

    The point is that McCain is not open to a timetable which is what the issue is here because it's unrealistic to think a heavy troop prescence for an undetermined amount of time is going to solve anything in Iraq.
    We are going to be there 100 years, or at least till the oil runs out. The fact that this will end up being counterproductive/disastrous hasn't sunk into the heads of the numbskulls in the White House yet.


    McCain is a flip flopping bser who only made it to the Senate because of his wife's huge wealth and connections.

    And he'd be even worse than George Bush, QED.

    The last two points directed at Lyle.

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    #1 it's funny a Brit is trying to lecture us about the Middle East

    #2 McCain is a patriot and made it into the senate because he's smart and he's a war hero....his wife's money has had nothing to do with his success in politics. What has he "flip flopped" on? And you calling him a flip flopper is very ironic....have you been listening to Conservative Talk Radio lately HAHAHA

    #3 I highly doubt it, McCain is a guy who is something the average American can get behind. He's tough, he's for the average man, and he's not totally tied to any party. He's solution oriented and when there is a problem he wants to solve it and he'll try to solve it most politicians just let the issues pile up and then point the finger to the opposition for letting those things happen, McCain doesn't wait, he acts and sometimes he's wrong but he's not afraid to be wrong.

    I know it's "cool", and "neat", and "progressive" (that's the gayest thing the Democrats say) to like a black guy and a woman but frankly they don't have good policies, they haven't proven themselves and they are more pretentious than their supporters.


    Vote for who you want to but don't disrespect John McCain, he has given more for this country than anyone else running for President!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    #1 it's funny a Brit is trying to lecture us about the Middle East

    #2 McCain is a patriot and made it into the senate because he's smart and he's a war hero....his wife's money has had nothing to do with his success in politics. What has he "flip flopped" on? And you calling him a flip flopper is very ironic....have you been listening to Conservative Talk Radio lately HAHAHA

    #3 I highly doubt it, McCain is a guy who is something the average American can get behind. He's tough, he's for the average man, and he's not totally tied to any party. He's solution oriented and when there is a problem he wants to solve it and he'll try to solve it most politicians just let the issues pile up and then point the finger to the opposition for letting those things happen, McCain doesn't wait, he acts and sometimes he's wrong but he's not afraid to be wrong.

    I know it's "cool", and "neat", and "progressive" (that's the gayest thing the Democrats say) to like a black guy and a woman but frankly they don't have good policies, they haven't proven themselves and they are more pretentious than their supporters.


    Vote for who you want to but don't disrespect John McCain, he has given more for this country than anyone else running for President!
    1. You're dodging the issue here.

    2. He couldn't have run his first campaign without his wife's money and connections. He's flip flopped on just about everything you can name. A short list :

    * McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
    * McCain claims to have considered and not considered joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
    * In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
    * McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
    * McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.
    * McCain’s campaign unveiled a Social Security policy that the senator would implement if elected, which did not include a Bush-like privatization scheme. In March 2008, McCain denounced his own campaign’s policy.
    * In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
    * In November 2007, McCain reversed his previous position on a long-term presence for U.S. troops in Iraq, arguing that the “nature of the society in Iraq” and the “religious aspects” of the country make it inevitable that the United States “eventually withdraws.” Two months later, McCain reversed back, saying he’s prepared to leave U.S. troops in Iraq for 100 years.
    * McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
    * McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
    * On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
    * In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
    * McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
    * McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”
    * McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
    * McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
    * McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.
    * McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
    * On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
    * In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
    * McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
    * McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
    * McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
    * McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
    * McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
    * McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.



    McCain's current platform is a bunch of stuff that would just make the existing economic/foreign situation much worse. By contrast either Democrat would be a much better choice for the average American. Although with your fetish for voting for people who relentlessly fuck you up the arse I can see why you'd rather vote for more of the same again.

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