Anyone Want To Doubt Joe Calzaghe Again??

[Deanrw]

He doesn't have any more power then Kessler does and he's never fought anybody at Calzaghe's level. We heard the same stuff about Jeff Lacy too. Pavlik really wouldn't stand a chance against Joe.

Kessler is a textbook guy, looks great on paper. I said this in another thread. Kessler fights like a guy who was trained to be a fighter. Pavlik is a fighter. Pavlik has 5X the meanness and intensity level of Kessler in the ring.

People call Pavlik robotic, but lets look it the truth. It is kessler who sat there round by round, doing the exact same thing against joe, afraid to devoid himself from his gameplan even though he was getting out worked plain and simple. He had no plan B, he follows textbook boxing rules and does not know or refuses to grit down.

Pavlik can square up in the middle of the ring also and jab, bomb with straight rights. If it does not work he can toss you into the rope and rip the shit out of you.

I tell you all right now. Kessler is over-rated by so many. He lacks in the intangibles in my book. He looks pretty in there, but he does not have the fire in his belly. Heart and desire will carry you in this game. If you lack that spark in any way, you are vulnerable.

Joe has that spark. Pavlik also has that spark.

Joe beats Pavlik like a gong and then Pavlik becomes the new Jeff Lacy.

Fanboy Blindness if you consider Pavlik anything like Jeff lacy.

You just proved your mindset to me.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kessler is a textbook guy, looks great on paper. I said this in another thread. Kessler fights like a guy who was trained to be a fighter. Pavlik is a fighter. Pavlik has 5X the meanness and intensity level of Kessler in the ring.

People call Pavlik robotic, but lets look it the truth. It is kessler who sat there round by round, doing the exact same thing against joe, afraid to devoid himself from his gameplan even though he was getting out worked plain and simple. He had no plan B, he follows textbook boxing rules and does not know or refuses to grit down.

Pavlik can square up in the middle of the ring also and jab, bomb with straight rights. If it does not work he can toss you into the rope and rip the shit out of you.

I tell you all right now. Kessler is over-rated by so many. He lacks in the intangibles in my book. He looks pretty in there, but he does not have the fire in his belly. Heart and desire will carry you in this game. If you lack that spark in any way, you are vulnerable.

Joe has that spark. Pavlik also has that spark.

Joe beats Pavlik like a gong and then Pavlik becomes the new Jeff Lacy.

Fanboy Blindness if you consider Pavlik anything like Jeff lacy.

You just proved your mindset to me.

Pavlik is not a gifted boxer. He comes in in straight lines and throws punches, that's it. It's only a matter of time till somebody boxes his head off.

[southakron314]

Joe beats Pavlik like a gong and then Pavlik becomes the new Jeff Lacy.

Fanboy Blindness if you consider Pavlik anything like Jeff lacy.

You just proved your mindset to me.

Pavlik is not a gifted boxer. He comes in in straight lines and throws punches, that's it. It's only a matter of time till somebody boxes his head off.

Thats the thing.No one can. He has fought great competition and beat the ever living shit out of them. He beat Taylor who beat Hopkins twice and Wright. He out boxed a boxer and out punched the best puncher at 160 & 168.

[Althugz]

I've never been a JC fan, in fact I was a self-proclaimed JC hater in the past lol Just everything about him didn't sit well with me. His padded record, his deluded personality and that real arrogance due to his padded CV, his technique. Everything was not to like for me.
Even when he beat Lacy it was like 'whatever'.
Then I picked Kessler against him and he boxed Kessler so well that, like Mick, I had to come back on here and give him his props. He was fantastic against a live, peak champion....but again I find myself disliking him after Saturday..He fought to a controversial decision with Bhop at age 43, he showed that piss-poor technique that Manny Steward described as ''amateur'' but i've seen Amateurs in their first fight punch better than that! He also called out Roy Jones who, if he beats, will be 40 years old. I kinda just find myself now praying that Roy Jones turns the clock back and knocks Calzaghe the fuck out. I dunno why. I think it may be due to the fact that Roy Jones is such a legend and I don't want his name on Calzaghe's CV so that he can trick people in the future into thinking that he beat the best because he certainly didn't in anybodies prime apart from Kessler.
I've tried not to feel like that and i did want Calzaghe's 'respect' streak to last more than one match with me (lol) but I just have to do a full 180 again and deny his greatness because of the above.

[Kirkland Laing]

Fanboy Blindness if you consider Pavlik anything like Jeff lacy.

You just proved your mindset to me.

Pavlik is not a gifted boxer. He comes in in straight lines and throws punches, that's it. It's only a matter of time till somebody boxes his head off.

Thats the thing.No one can. He has fought great competition and beat the ever living shit out of them. He beat Taylor who beat Hopkins twice and Wright. He out boxed a boxer and out punched the best puncher at 160 & 168.

It's only a matter of time till somebody outboxes him.