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    Default Re: Your Calzaghe-Hopkins Scorecard

    1 = 10-8 Hopkins
    2 = 10-9 Hopkins
    3 = 10-9 Hopkins
    4 = 10-9 Calzaghe
    5 = 10-9 Calzaghe
    6 = 10-9 Calzaghe
    7 = 10-9 Calzaghe
    8 = 10-9 Hopkins
    9 = 10-9 Calzaghe
    10 = 10-9 Hopkins
    11 = 10-9 Calzaghe
    12 = 10-9 Calzaghe

    114 - 113 Calzaghe

    Everyone I watched the fight with had Calzaghe by 1-3 points, but all said before the scorecards came in that he hadn't done enough to beat Hopkins in has own backyard. But he was the agressor and forced the fight and if he didn't come forward this could have been one of the dullest fights of all time.

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    So we all agree that it was very very close then? Robbery

    It would have been an injustice had Hopkins been allowed to con his way to victory.

    Well done Joe, a true champion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Such a hard fight to score. Infact the hardest to score since Hopkins Taylor 1 imo. I think we all agree it was VERY close
    I don't think Taylor vs Hopkins 1 was that hard to score, Taylor pretty much clearly won most of the early rounds, with Hopkins at best winning 2 rounds out of the first 8 with 1 even round. Then Hopkins clearly won the last 4 rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    So we all agree that it was very very close then? Robbery

    It would have been an injustice had Hopkins been allowed to con his way to victory.

    Well done Joe, a true champion.
    I was surprised Calzaghe won close decision in USA, and im even more shocked 2 judges had him winning so wide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Such a hard fight to score. Infact the hardest to score since Hopkins Taylor 1 imo. I think we all agree it was VERY close
    I don't think Taylor vs Hopkins 1 was that hard to score, Taylor pretty much clearly won most of the early rounds, with Hopkins at best winning 2 rounds out of the first 8 with 1 even round. Then Hopkins clearly won the last 4 rounds.
    I agree with your scoring, but rounds 1-8 were so tight they could've gone either way. If you remember there was such a big differnce in so many peoples cards on here after that fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    120-108 Calzaghe, if not for the KD. Nard never won a round. He ran all night. Calzaghe, the aggressor, chased him like some dirty ex-con, bitch-slapped Nard like crazy, all the while being restrained by the biased referee. It was a masterclass in boxing. Grace under pressure.

    You're getting slapped down with -27 REP for your comment. This is a forum and you're allowed your oppinion but this is rediculous... You do know this is a boxing forum, no?

    The people that post here make intelligent comments that can be backed with fact... Not mindless drivle.

    I've seen one post from you on this forum and it was idiotic... Hopkins didn't win a round? If you ever want some help on how to score a fight in regards to ring generalship, active agression and landing harder, cleaner shots let me know...

    Clearly you need some help.

    I love BHop but still scored the fight with Calzaghe winning by 1 pt.

    Although I wanted Joe to lose I'm glad he got a fair decision here. I hate hometown bullshit.



    ... although I'm a hopkins fan... I don't deal in fan-boy bullshit either
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    120-108 Calzaghe, if not for the KD. Nard never won a round. He ran all night. Calzaghe, the aggressor, chased him like some dirty ex-con, bitch-slapped Nard like crazy, all the while being restrained by the biased referee. It was a masterclass in boxing. Grace under pressure.

    You're getting slapped down with -27 REP for your comment. This is a forum and you're allowed your oppinion but this is rediculous... You do know this is a boxing forum, no?

    The people that post here make intelligent comments that can be backed with fact... Not mindless drivle.

    I've seen one post from you on this forum and it was idiotic... Hopkins didn't win a round? If you ever want some help on how to score a fight in regards to ring generalship, active agression and landing harder, cleaner shots let me know...

    Clearly you need some help.

    I love BHop but still scored the fight with Calzaghe winning by 1 pt.

    Although I wanted Joe to lose I'm glad he got a fair decision here. I hate hometown bullshit.
    Look, if people can call the Floyd-Baldomir class a masterclass in boxing 120-108, when all he did was run in a fight officiated by a ref who said Floyd was the greatest, why can't we do the same with Calzaghe, who instead of running like Floyd, chased the bigger fighter in Hopkins, actually HURT Nard (did Floyd hurt Baldo?), all the while being prevented to let it all out by a ref who also thought Nard was the greatest?

    In other words:

    Floyd in Baldo ran for 12 rounds from a feather-fisted journeyman, w/ the ref rooting for him, did not hurt Baldo, gets a wide UD 120-108, while

    Cal in Hop stalked the much bigger and so much more accomplished fighter in Hop (compared to Baldo that is), with the ref against him, hurt Nard at times, but only gets an SD 115-114?

    There is no JUSTICE if that's how you see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    120-108 Calzaghe, if not for the KD. Nard never won a round. He ran all night. Calzaghe, the aggressor, chased him like some dirty ex-con, bitch-slapped Nard like crazy, all the while being restrained by the biased referee. It was a masterclass in boxing. Grace under pressure.

    You're getting slapped down with -27 REP for your comment. This is a forum and you're allowed your oppinion but this is rediculous... You do know this is a boxing forum, no?

    The people that post here make intelligent comments that can be backed with fact... Not mindless drivle.

    I've seen one post from you on this forum and it was idiotic... Hopkins didn't win a round? If you ever want some help on how to score a fight in regards to ring generalship, active agression and landing harder, cleaner shots let me know...

    Clearly you need some help.

    I love BHop but still scored the fight with Calzaghe winning by 1 pt.

    Although I wanted Joe to lose I'm glad he got a fair decision here. I hate hometown bullshit.
    Look, if people can call the Floyd-Baldomir class a masterclass in boxing 120-108, when all he did was run in a fight officiated by a ref who said Floyd was the greatest, why can't we do the same with Calzaghe, who instead of running like Floyd, chased the bigger fighter in Hopkins, actually HURT Nard (did Floyd hurt Baldo?), all the while being prevented to let it all out by a ref who also thought Nard was the greatest?

    In other words:

    Floyd in Baldo ran for 12 rounds from a feather-fisted journeyman, w/ the ref rooting for him, did not hurt Baldo, gets a wide UD 120-108, while

    Cal in Hop stalked the much bigger and so much more accomplished fighter in Hop (compared to Baldo that is), with the ref against him, hurt Nard at times, but only gets an SD 115-114?

    There is no JUSTICE if that's how you see it.
    joe did not hurt hopkins. joe followed hopkins round the ring, majority of the time throwing ineffective flurries. rounds that joe won was because hopkins was too inactive. the hopkins that faced trinidad would of beat joe decisively

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    120-108 Calzaghe, if not for the KD. Nard never won a round. He ran all night. Calzaghe, the aggressor, chased him like some dirty ex-con, bitch-slapped Nard like crazy, all the while being restrained by the biased referee. It was a masterclass in boxing. Grace under pressure.

    You're getting slapped down with -27 REP for your comment. This is a forum and you're allowed your oppinion but this is rediculous... You do know this is a boxing forum, no?

    The people that post here make intelligent comments that can be backed with fact... Not mindless drivle.

    I've seen one post from you on this forum and it was idiotic... Hopkins didn't win a round? If you ever want some help on how to score a fight in regards to ring generalship, active agression and landing harder, cleaner shots let me know...

    Clearly you need some help.

    I love BHop but still scored the fight with Calzaghe winning by 1 pt.

    Although I wanted Joe to lose I'm glad he got a fair decision here. I hate hometown bullshit.
    Look, if people can call the Floyd-Baldomir class a masterclass in boxing 120-108, when all he did was run in a fight officiated by a ref who said Floyd was the greatest, why can't we do the same with Calzaghe, who instead of running like Floyd, chased the bigger fighter in Hopkins, actually HURT Nard (did Floyd hurt Baldo?), all the while being prevented to let it all out by a ref who also thought Nard was the greatest?

    In other words:

    Floyd in Baldo ran for 12 rounds from a feather-fisted journeyman, w/ the ref rooting for him, did not hurt Baldo, gets a wide UD 120-108, while

    Cal in Hop stalked the much bigger and so much more accomplished fighter in Hop (compared to Baldo that is), with the ref against him, hurt Nard at times, but only gets an SD 115-114?

    There is no JUSTICE if that's how you see it.
    Thats ridiculous comparison you really are a hater aren't you ?? the difference is Baldomir didn't land any solid shots on Mayweather in the entire fight he was dominated thats pretty obvious to see, where as Hopkins dropped Calzaghe, and he also landed the much more effective cleaner blows.

    THATS WHY EVERYONE SCORED MAYWEATHER VS BALDOMIR 120-108, AND THATS WHY EVERYONE HAS HOPKINS VS CALZAGHE A CLOSE FIGHT, AND YOUR THE ONLY MORON WHO HAS IT THAT WIDE.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    120-108 Calzaghe, if not for the KD. Nard never won a round. He ran all night. Calzaghe, the aggressor, chased him like some dirty ex-con, bitch-slapped Nard like crazy, all the while being restrained by the biased referee. It was a masterclass in boxing. Grace under pressure.

    You're getting slapped down with -27 REP for your comment. This is a forum and you're allowed your oppinion but this is rediculous... You do know this is a boxing forum, no?

    The people that post here make intelligent comments that can be backed with fact... Not mindless drivle.

    I've seen one post from you on this forum and it was idiotic... Hopkins didn't win a round? If you ever want some help on how to score a fight in regards to ring generalship, active agression and landing harder, cleaner shots let me know...

    Clearly you need some help.

    I love BHop but still scored the fight with Calzaghe winning by 1 pt.

    Although I wanted Joe to lose I'm glad he got a fair decision here. I hate hometown bullshit.
    Look, if people can call the Floyd-Baldomir class a masterclass in boxing 120-108, when all he did was run in a fight officiated by a ref who said Floyd was the greatest, why can't we do the same with Calzaghe, who instead of running like Floyd, chased the bigger fighter in Hopkins, actually HURT Nard (did Floyd hurt Baldo?), all the while being prevented to let it all out by a ref who also thought Nard was the greatest?

    In other words:

    Floyd in Baldo ran for 12 rounds from a feather-fisted journeyman, w/ the ref rooting for him, did not hurt Baldo, gets a wide UD 120-108, while

    Cal in Hop stalked the much bigger and so much more accomplished fighter in Hop (compared to Baldo that is), with the ref against him, hurt Nard at times, but only gets an SD 115-114?

    There is no JUSTICE if that's how you see it.
    #1 The only time Bernard was hurt was when he got cracked in the balls. (granted he should get an academy award for two of them...)

    The only one I remember getting hurt was the one that got dropped on his shorts by a straight right hand...

    #2 Bernard used lateral movement to turn Calzaghe and real him in. He didn't fight on his backfoot all night.

    Did Calzaghe win the fight? It's up for debate but I think he did by a point. (and I'm American)

    Can you in anyway call that UGLY fight a masterclass? Of course not.

    A masterclass is what Calzaghe did to Lacy. As much as I am not a Joe C fan... I give credit where it's do which you are not. If you think that the Hopkins fight even slightly... slightly resembled the Lacy fight you're out of your mind.

    There's a big difference between the way that Hokins fights and the way that PBF fights. Baldo was made to look like an amatuer and was unable to find PBF all night... BHop found Joe with counters and leaping straights that were the harder, more telling blows.

    Did Nard do enough to win? Not in my book but no one... I repeat... NO ONE has and will never make bernard lose in a diffinitive manner. He is to good a tactitioner and to good at grinding the action down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post


    You're getting slapped down with -27 REP for your comment. This is a forum and you're allowed your oppinion but this is rediculous... You do know this is a boxing forum, no?

    The people that post here make intelligent comments that can be backed with fact... Not mindless drivle.

    I've seen one post from you on this forum and it was idiotic... Hopkins didn't win a round? If you ever want some help on how to score a fight in regards to ring generalship, active agression and landing harder, cleaner shots let me know...

    Clearly you need some help.

    I love BHop but still scored the fight with Calzaghe winning by 1 pt.

    Although I wanted Joe to lose I'm glad he got a fair decision here. I hate hometown bullshit.
    Look, if people can call the Floyd-Baldomir class a masterclass in boxing 120-108, when all he did was run in a fight officiated by a ref who said Floyd was the greatest, why can't we do the same with Calzaghe, who instead of running like Floyd, chased the bigger fighter in Hopkins, actually HURT Nard (did Floyd hurt Baldo?), all the while being prevented to let it all out by a ref who also thought Nard was the greatest?

    In other words:

    Floyd in Baldo ran for 12 rounds from a feather-fisted journeyman, w/ the ref rooting for him, did not hurt Baldo, gets a wide UD 120-108, while

    Cal in Hop stalked the much bigger and so much more accomplished fighter in Hop (compared to Baldo that is), with the ref against him, hurt Nard at times, but only gets an SD 115-114?

    There is no JUSTICE if that's how you see it.
    Thats ridiculous comparison you really are a hater aren't you ?? the difference is Baldomir didn't land any solid shots on Mayweather in the entire fight he was dominated thats pretty obvious to see, where as Hopkins dropped Calzaghe, and he also landed the much more effective cleaner blows.

    THATS WHY EVERYONE SCORED MAYWEATHER VS BALDOMIR 120-108, AND THATS WHY EVERYONE HAS HOPKINS VS CALZAGHE A CLOSE FIGHT, AND YOUR THE ONLY MORON WHO HAS IT THAT WIDE.

    Hope that helps.
    LOL and Floyd landed solid shots? You of all people, who said that Cal didnt land any on Nard, will now say that Floyd landed solid shots on Baldomir? Jesus Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post

    Look, if people can call the Floyd-Baldomir class a masterclass in boxing 120-108, when all he did was run in a fight officiated by a ref who said Floyd was the greatest, why can't we do the same with Calzaghe, who instead of running like Floyd, chased the bigger fighter in Hopkins, actually HURT Nard (did Floyd hurt Baldo?), all the while being prevented to let it all out by a ref who also thought Nard was the greatest?

    In other words:

    Floyd in Baldo ran for 12 rounds from a feather-fisted journeyman, w/ the ref rooting for him, did not hurt Baldo, gets a wide UD 120-108, while

    Cal in Hop stalked the much bigger and so much more accomplished fighter in Hop (compared to Baldo that is), with the ref against him, hurt Nard at times, but only gets an SD 115-114?

    There is no JUSTICE if that's how you see it.
    Thats ridiculous comparison you really are a hater aren't you ?? the difference is Baldomir didn't land any solid shots on Mayweather in the entire fight he was dominated thats pretty obvious to see, where as Hopkins dropped Calzaghe, and he also landed the much more effective cleaner blows.

    THATS WHY EVERYONE SCORED MAYWEATHER VS BALDOMIR 120-108, AND THATS WHY EVERYONE HAS HOPKINS VS CALZAGHE A CLOSE FIGHT, AND YOUR THE ONLY MORON WHO HAS IT THAT WIDE.

    Hope that helps.
    LOL and Floyd landed solid shots? You of all people, who said that Cal didnt land any on Nard, will now say that Floyd landed solid shots on Baldomir? Jesus Christ.
    Just answer me this your that moron from Boxingscene right ?? your that guy with that stupid body builder in your profile right ?? either that or your both just both morons. Calzaghe landed pitter patter on Hopkins why don't you study the fight and watch how many times Calzaghe hits Hopkins with those slapping flurry shots and actually show me where he lands a really hurtful shot on Hopkins ??, Mayweather hit Baldomir with solid right hands and jabs, he neutralized Baldomir's offense thats why he won 120-108, Hopkins vs Calzaghe was close because of the knockdown and because Hopkins landed the more effective shots thats why it was only SD win for Calzaghe thats pretty basic even for a tool like you sir.

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    #1 The only time Bernard was hurt was when he got cracked in the balls. (granted he should get an academy award for two of them...)

    The only one I remember getting hurt was the one that got dropped on his shorts by a straight right hand...

    #2 Bernard used lateral movement to turn Calzaghe and real him in. He didn't fight on his backfoot all night.

    Did Calzaghe win the fight? It's up for debate but I think he did by a point. (and I'm American)

    Can you in anyway call that UGLY fight a masterclass? Of course not.

    A masterclass is what Calzaghe did to Lacy. As much as I am not a Joe C fan... I give credit where it's do which you are not. If you think that the Hopkins fight even slightly... slightly resembled the Lacy fight you're out of your mind.

    There's a big difference between the way that Hokins fights and the way that PBF fights. Baldo was made to look like an amatuer and was unable to find PBF all night... BHop found Joe with counters and leaping straights that were the harder, more telling blows.

    Did Nard do enough to win? Not in my book but no one... I repeat... NO ONE has and will never make bernard lose in a diffinitive manner. He is to good a tactitioner and to good at grinding the action down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JLAQ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Thats ridiculous comparison you really are a hater aren't you ?? the difference is Baldomir didn't land any solid shots on Mayweather in the entire fight he was dominated thats pretty obvious to see, where as Hopkins dropped Calzaghe, and he also landed the much more effective cleaner blows.

    THATS WHY EVERYONE SCORED MAYWEATHER VS BALDOMIR 120-108, AND THATS WHY EVERYONE HAS HOPKINS VS CALZAGHE A CLOSE FIGHT, AND YOUR THE ONLY MORON WHO HAS IT THAT WIDE.

    Hope that helps.
    LOL and Floyd landed solid shots? You of all people, who said that Cal didnt land any on Nard, will now say that Floyd landed solid shots on Baldomir? Jesus Christ.
    Just answer me this your that moron from Boxingscene right ?? your that guy with that stupid body builder in your profile right ?? either that or your both just both morons. Calzaghe landed pitter patter on Hopkins why don't you study the fight and watch how many times Calzaghe hits Hopkins with those slapping flurry shots and actually show me where he lands a really hurtful shot on Hopkins ??, Mayweather hit Baldomir with solid right hands and jabs,
    I stopped at there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    So we all agree that it was very very close then? Robbery

    It would have been an injustice had Hopkins been allowed to con his way to victory.

    Well done Joe, a true champion.
    I was surprised Calzaghe won close decision in USA, and im even more shocked 2 judges had him winning so wide.
    Its Las Vegas. Above all they favor aggression and work rate.

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