BAROCK OBAMA

**pacfan** · 04-22-2008 10:47 PM

They say good talkers are bad doers. Of course there are exceptions.

El Kabong · 04-22-2008 11:19 PM

Yeah, FDR and Reagan come to mind.

But Barack is an empty vessle there to be filled by the warped theories of the moveon.org crowd

**Spicoli** · 04-23-2008 01:22 AM

The time line on ther war was just that...a LINE.Its said to comfort and make the American people feel betteror not .Realisticly we are not pulling out of Iraq any time soon regardless of who Is President.This was not thought out and was Ill conceived and Badly executed only by the Politico's from Jump off and devolved into a big foul photo op.Forget about comparing our presence in Japan,South Korea,Germany,Etc to Iraq.We will take numerous Hits and have casualties for years as long as we have a substantial presence In Country.This Is religious on a huge scale...not mainly economic or Political.

As for Obauma.....Who?Just a little green for me.Clinton will motivate the Rights machine like no one ever has....Thay want her to win The Primary.In 2000 I would have voted for McCain,The way Bush went after him was gutless and desperate.Now Im not so sure.

El Kabong · 04-23-2008 01:30 AM

I owe you rep Spicoli, I agree 100% with everything you posted, bar the stuff about not being sure about McCain. I have always liked McCain and always will.

I doubt we're going to take as many hits in country as people think, we have bases in countries who really despise us more than Iraq, Saudia Arabia for one and we usually don't take any hits there.

We're in Iraq for the long haul...this is typical though for any western nation to go to war in the middle east since the dawn of time we've been fighting and I doubt we stop anytime soon

**Douglas** · 04-23-2008 01:40 AM

Just my 2 bits worth here... I don't know who I want to win... All I can do is pray that whoever will be best to get this country out of the slope it's in will win, whoever he/she is.

I've learned a thing or 2 about wanting a certain person to win without knowing a whole lot about politics (I don't know anything). When Bush got elected I wanted him to win against Al Gore. I was only an 8th grader then (I knew even less than the tiny bit I know now, and back then I had as much common sense cents as a dollar bill

... But still, I wanted Bush to win and I pretty much had no reason for wanting him to win at all, except I liked the fact his dad had also been a president. 'Course, like I said, I was just a child back then and besides, I never voted anyway because I was too young!!

(That's why children don't vote

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**Spicoli** · 04-23-2008 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Lyle

I owe you rep Spicoli, I agree 100% with everything you posted, bar the stuff about not being sure about McCain. I have always liked McCain and always will.

I doubt we're going to take as many hits in country as people think, we have bases in countries who really despise us more than Iraq, Saudia Arabia for one and we usually don't take any hits there.

We're in Iraq for the long haul...this is typical though for any western nation to go to war in the middle east since the dawn of time we've been fighting and I doubt we stop anytime soon

Thanks Lyle.Good to air out the politics at times and you do it well.I have big respect for McCain as a man.I do not judge a man/woman by the letter aside there name on the Tube.We get to caught up in party afiliations and loose sight of the bigger picture that it is OUR Interest that are at stake when we elect any of these guys and gals into office.Are those Interest and There Due Immportance guarenteed...History says Nay.I am Registered as an Independent....That statement in and of itself is pretty backwards tough.The thing about Iraq is its almost a dump off and training ground for future and present Enemys,They do not Hit us in Saudi Arabia everyday but in a round about way They got all they wanted when using our forces there as Justification for Bin Ladens big hit that September Morning. Its Close to home when I see some catch phrase suit & tie wagging there finger at the citizens when it comes to OUR friends and familys paying the price.We can be so naive at times and should always ask questions of our elected officials.Man,this sounds uptight....rough day! Rep to ya Lyle.

**DAVIDTUA** · 04-23-2008 02:30 AM

fuck hillary just won penn state ARGGGGGGGGGGGH

**Kirkland Laing** · 04-23-2008 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

The time line on ther war was just that...a LINE.Its said to comfort and make the American people feel betteror not .Realisticly we are not pulling out of Iraq any time soon regardless of who Is President.This was not thought out and was Ill conceived and Badly executed only by the Politico's from Jump off and devolved into a big foul photo op.Forget about comparing our presence in Japan,South Korea,Germany,Etc to Iraq.We will take numerous Hits and have casualties for years as long as we have a substantial presence In Country.This Is religious on a huge scale...not mainly economic or Political.

As for Obauma.....Who?Just a little green for me.Clinton will motivate the Rights machine like no one ever has....Thay want her to win The Primary.In 2000 I would have voted for McCain,The way Bush went after him was gutless and desperate.Now Im not so sure.

The Iraq war is entirely about oil and the economy, as is every other foreign policy move America and Britain have made in that region in the last century. If two-thirds of the world's conventional oil reserves were under the Saharan desert instead of the Arabian desert we'd occasionally be warned by our governments that some tinpot little Saharan dictator was a clear and present threat to our national security that needed immediate military action, and the Middle East would get as much attention as, well, sub-Saharan Africa does today.