BAROCK OBAMA

[El Kabong]

So Straight Talking John McCain pandering to various GOP constituencies for their 2008 election support by reversing his previous positions isn't flip flopping?

You're just an apologist for a flip flopper.

For a politician trying to keep his job and get support for a general election is ok....flip flopping isn't bad, it's bad flip floppers that are.


For example John Kerry got all flustered and annoyed with being called a flip flopper and BANG the label stuck to him, McCain has sold his "Straight Talk" and he's done well with it. Also McCain is more of your normal everyday buddy than the democrat's wine snob elites....may not make a difference to you but to Joe Sixpack it's a big difference.

Also the things McCain say are more like "America is already great" vs Obama and Hillary saying "America sucks and I can change it"....people don't want to hear that America sucks and it doesn't....we just have our ups and downs like anyone else, no reason to say we suck or to villianize any LEGAL citizens here

[Kirkland Laing]

Kerry was called a flip flopper despite the fact that Bush had a much bigger list of flip flops. The liberal media only called kerry the flip flopper. Same with Straight Talking John McCain, who is even more full of shit than George Bush. The fact he's a flip flopping panderer won't get a mention in the media this campaign. And McCain is as much a normal American as fourth-generation Connecticut banking family scion and Harvard legacy George Bush is. It's all just bs yet there doesn't appear to be any bs you won't happily accept.

[El Kabong]

Hey it's not THAT you flip flop it's HOW you flip flop...ALL politicians do it, some are just better at it than others

If I "buy into" this Republican BS then of course you "buy into" the Democrat BS....not recognizing that you do just makes debating you a little more frustrating but it doesn't make the facts any different. You drink a different flavor of Kool Aid is all....most people do on at least 1 or 2 major issues.



You point a finger and you have 3 pointing right back at you, so don't accuse me of being biased politically when you yourself are just as biased only in a different direction.

[Kirkland Laing]

Hey it's not THAT you flip flop it's HOW you flip flop...ALL politicians do it, some are just better at it than others

If I "buy into" this Republican BS then of course you "buy into" the Democrat BS....not recognizing that you do just makes debating you a little more frustrating but it doesn't make the facts any different. You drink a different flavor of Kool Aid is all....most people do on at least 1 or 2 major issues.



You point a finger and you have 3 pointing right back at you, so don't accuse me of being biased politically when you yourself are just as biased only in a different direction.

I'm wanting McCain to win but only because I want him to continue the same dumbass policies that are screwing America up. Continuing them to their logical ends is the only way enough Americans are going to start paying attention to what's going on. At the minute you can live in your own fantasy world where facts don't matter, so things will have to get really bad before enough of you actually pay attention. McCain is just the man to do that.

[El Kabong]

....I'm glad people don't share your cheerful attitude Kirkland. I'm hoping you don't work at a suicide hotline

[Kirkland Laing]

....I'm glad people don't share your cheerful attitude Kirkland. I'm hoping you don't work at a suicide hotline

No, I just know what I'm talking about. In ten years you'll think to yourself "that English fucker really did know what he was talking about."

[El Kabong]

....whatever helps you get to sleep at night