Fine just forget anything Rocky and Louis did and have you fuckin "G.O.A.T" he ain't mine and he never will be.

Valuev might get to 50-0-0 but he's not fighting everyone out there!

So had Ali not had Frazier, Foreman, Norton, and so on in his era he would have been a nobody? I mean I can certainly find some good fighters that Marciano and Louis fought and they always dominated eventhough the Rock was most times the UNDERDOG