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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    #1 Cotto is not going to take unneccesary punishment

    #2 Margarito as always WILL take more punishment than needed




    Cotto's skill will destroy Margarito's bravado

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    I see a competitive fight between Cotto and Margarito but in reality Cotto is a class above Margo, it will be a good fight and as someone said earlier Margarito will test the Cotto defence and chin which is his weakness.
    I see a tough UD for Cotto in the end with a scorecard of 117-111 or 116-112

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    I will know all i need to know, after i see cotto get hit one or two times, how he handles that will let me know what to expect the rest of the fight.
    I'm kinda curious who he handles 100 plus punches and how well he can take Margirito to the chin. Cotto has the upper hand in power & speed.

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    if cotto boxes he wins a tough UD

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    #1 Cotto is not going to take unneccesary punishment
    Maybe not, but he will take some necessary punishment.

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    In my opinion i want add , for me , Cotto will come like he did with Quintana , Cotto is a boxer that like to put respect in to the ring first and take the control , he always like to put his opponents to adapting to him , not viceversa , he knows that Margarito is hard hitter too , but in this case probably he would test first how Margarito can assimilate his power , i don't have any doubt that this will happen , Cotto is a boxer that like to fight toe to toe like everybody knows , but he will boxing too for try to frustrate Margarito , if we remember the fight with Mosley why Cotto came to that fight with more boxing and speed ? , because that was his plan , make Mosley to adapt to him and the big point is , that will take the control , if he doesn't get the control he could have some problems , this will going to be a great and interesting fight.................
    Last edited by Macho; 04-27-2008 at 01:41 PM.

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Yeah so do I. I think it is entertaining but Cotto is one of the most complete fighters in boxing and Margarito is limited to say the least. Don't think this one is particularly close though I think it's a great fight. Might be a scary moment or two for Cotto but nothing leads me to think Margarito wins. This is a showcase fight for Cotto.
    I agree with all there except the last line.When I think of a showcase Fight...I think of A Gomez Vs. Cotto or even a Margarito Vs. Golden Johnson.One that it is Assumed the conclusion is pretty certain prior to the match .I see Cotto as the more refined Boxer..no doubt,But he will not have the convenience or time to be a thinking boxer and select his shots all night without some fierce exchanges at times.Tony is far from just a Caveman wearing gloves although I do see him susceptible to the body from Cotto but Tonys pressure power and volume arsenal will be a constant.Has nice rangy power as well but often smothers it.Jab will be key for Cotto,Double to head/body body/head.Love this fight.......Let Mayweather stay in the WWE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    #1 Cotto is not going to take unneccesary punishment
    Maybe not, but he will take some necessary punishment.
    If Cotto lands 2 punches for every 1 punch that Margarito lands he's going to KO Tony.


    Miguel can box and he's not going to disrespect Tony's power but I am fairly certain Tony is going to disrespect Cotto's power and it will be a FATAL flaw in judgement....Tony has a chin but when he's taken his 10th left hook to the liver and has a broken jaw he's going to be cursing his lack of a defensive strategy

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    #1 Cotto is not going to take unneccesary punishment
    Maybe not, but he will take some necessary punishment.
    If Cotto lands 2 punches for every 1 punch that Margarito lands he's going to KO Tony.


    Miguel can box and he's not going to disrespect Tony's power but I am fairly certain Tony is going to disrespect Cotto's power and it will be a FATAL flaw in judgement....Tony has a chin but when he's taken his 10th left hook to the liver and has a broken jaw he's going to be cursing his lack of a defensive strategy


    Theres no way that Marg. gets KO'd period. Cotto does not have that kind of power, he has power and body attacks and can box but he will not KO Marg. ask Cintron what he thinks of Marg's chin...f'ing brick wall, walked right thru every punch Cintron thru smiled and went back at it. ITs gonna be a decision for cotto or a stoppage from cuts for Margo. thats the outcome of the fight
    Last edited by Onix; 04-27-2008 at 06:10 PM. Reason: didnt make sense

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    You won't find an arguement from me about whether Margarito has a good chin or not. He's got a great chin but you cannot take punishment the way he does in his fights vs a guy like Cotto.

    Guys who can take crosses without worry sometimes can't take hooks as well. Take a look at Sam Peter for one...he took Wlad's right crosses all night but as soon as he landed a hook he wobbled around like he was drunk.


    Margarito hasn't been hurt to the body the way Cotto is going to hurt him either and good chin or no there's nothing wise about taking the punishment Cotto inflicts on the body

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Its not about one shot with Margarito, however hard Cintron hits with one punch you've got to stay there with him and keep breaking him down all fight. Cintron doesn't have the defense, the mentality, whatever to stay with him all night continually catching him. Cotto is a completely different thing than Cintron whether Cintron hits harder with one punch or not. I don't expect a stoppage but I wouldn't be shocked whatsoever to see Tony hurt a few times whether to the head or the body, especially late.

    I think it will be a matter of skill over strength, especially when you consider Cotto's no slouch in the strength and power department. I don't think he needs to box and move all night though. He should mix it up, do some of that sometimes, other times stand his ground and use his shorter shots to outland Tony.

    The left uppercut of Margarito could be a problem and we'll see how well Cotto takes it to the body. Still think he'll win though.

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Margaritos chin is solid but he should not take it for granted.If either guy faulters and gets hurt I think it will be from body shots.Tonys offense is mixed well and Cotto can win this boxing smart,If Cotto gets dinged and his insticts take over to stand still and trade ,Margarito can hurt him bad in the body.

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    If Cotto lands 2 punches for every 1 punch that Margarito lands he's going to KO Tony.
    I see no reason to believe that, but I doubt that will happen anyway.

    Miguel can box and he's not going to disrespect Tony's power but I am fairly certain Tony is going to disrespect Cotto's power and it will be a FATAL flaw in judgement....Tony has a chin but when he's taken his 10th left hook to the liver and has a broken jaw he's going to be cursing his lack of a defensive strategy
    I don't think you give Tony enough credit. Tony is not a dumb fighter. Just because he threw caution to the wind against Cintron, doesn't mean he'll do it against Cotto. He knew he could get away with that against Kermit, he has good defense when he chooses to use it.

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    Margarito has NEVER used his defense...look what happened vs Paul Williams and Paul doesn't throw as sharp and as quick as Cotto does. Sure Paul is huge but in that fight Tony's defense was shown very lacking and he can't take that type of punishment from Miguel Cotto and be awake at the end of the fight.


    Tony isn't a dumb fighter but his lack of defense or lack of focus on the defense will lead to his demise vs Cotto.


    Tony gives up his natural height and reach advantages AND he has poor defense AND he throws longer wider punches those are the FACTS

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    What happened against Williams was that Tony blocked or slipped a whole sh&*load of those punches. I'm not sure how you missed that. Williams won because he outworked and outthrew Tony, period. He actually spent too much of that fight playing defense and that's why he lost. All I gotta say is that if you think Cotto is just going to have a field day and land at will like he did with Gomez, you are sadly mistaken. Also, you keep saying that Cotto is going to KO Tony, then why couldn't he KO Mosley? He never even hurt Mosley and he landed on him all night. I'm not saying Cotto isn't capable of KOing him, but I think you're slightly overestimating him.

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