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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Margarito has NEVER used his defense...look what happened vs Paul Williams and Paul doesn't throw as sharp and as quick as Cotto does. Sure Paul is huge but in that fight Tony's defense was shown very lacking and he can't take that type of punishment from Miguel Cotto and be awake at the end of the fight.


    Tony isn't a dumb fighter but his lack of defense or lack of focus on the defense will lead to his demise vs Cotto.


    Tony gives up his natural height and reach advantages AND he has poor defense AND he throws longer wider punches those are the FACTS

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    What happened against Williams was that Tony blocked or slipped a whole sh&*load of those punches. I'm not sure how you missed that. Williams won because he outworked and outthrew Tony, period. He actually spent too much of that fight playing defense and that's why he lost. All I gotta say is that if you think Cotto is just going to have a field day and land at will like he did with Gomez, you are sadly mistaken. Also, you keep saying that Cotto is going to KO Tony, then why couldn't he KO Mosley? He never even hurt Mosley and he landed on him all night. I'm not saying Cotto isn't capable of KOing him, but I think you're slightly overestimating him.

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    Williams won because Tony has no fucking clue how to stop a cross with something other than his face.

    Shane Mosely is a beast and he has never been stopped and he's only been hurt ONCE but the reason Cotto couldn't stop Shane is because Shane is a complete fighter with extremely fast hands and good sharp power and Shane has some decent defensive skill.

    Cotto hurt Shane, he didn't wobble him or knock him down but he made him wince...he did more damage to Shane than a prime De la Hoya ever did.

    Cintron had no defense and didn't box effectively. If Cintron could use a jab and box then we'd be talking Cotto-Cintron. Paul Williams has no defense either and used his punch output to beat Margarito.

    Cotto is definently going to have to fight his ass off to beat Margarito...only thing is I see him actually doing it

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Williams won because Tony has no fucking clue how to stop a cross with something other than his face.
    You're wrong. I already stated that Tony blocked or slipped a lot of Williams' punches. You're either in denial, or you didn't see the fight.

    Shane Mosely is a beast and he has never been stopped and he's only been hurt ONCE but the reason Cotto couldn't stop Shane is because Shane is a complete fighter with extremely fast hands and good sharp power and Shane has some decent defensive skill.
    Margarito is also a beast who has never been stopped. What does fast hands and power have to do with it when you're the one getting hit? It's not like Shane was preventing Cotto from hitting him. Shane was getting hit all night, but he has a solid chin, just like Tony.

    Cotto hurt Shane, he didn't wobble him or knock him down but he made him wince...he did more damage to Shane than a prime De la Hoya ever did.
    Frankly irrelevant. Virtually all fighters have been made to wince at some point, it doesn't mean much.


    Cotto is definently going to have to fight his ass off to beat Margarito...only thing is I see him actually doing it
    Fair enough. We shall see.

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Williams won because Tony has no fucking clue how to stop a cross with something other than his face.

    Shane Mosely is a beast and he has never been stopped and he's only been hurt ONCE but the reason Cotto couldn't stop Shane is because Shane is a complete fighter with extremely fast hands and good sharp power and Shane has some decent defensive skill.

    Cotto hurt Shane, he didn't wobble him or knock him down but he made him wince...he did more damage to Shane than a prime De la Hoya ever did.

    Cintron had no defense and didn't box effectively. If Cintron could use a jab and box then we'd be talking Cotto-Cintron. Paul Williams has no defense either and used his punch output to beat Margarito.

    Cotto is definently going to have to fight his ass off to beat Margarito...only thing is I see him actually doing it
    I would have to agree wiht that. But Cotto seems to get better every fight. With each fight he shows you something new or revised. He is evolving into a great fighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    What happened against Williams was that Tony blocked or slipped a whole sh&*load of those punches. I'm not sure how you missed that. Williams won because he outworked and outthrew Tony, period. He actually spent too much of that fight playing defense and that's why he lost. All I gotta say is that if you think Cotto is just going to have a field day and land at will like he did with Gomez, you are sadly mistaken. Also, you keep saying that Cotto is going to KO Tony, then why couldn't he KO Mosley? He never even hurt Mosley and he landed on him all night. I'm not saying Cotto isn't capable of KOing him, but I think you're slightly overestimating him.

    couldnt agree more with this post. Marg. was blocking so many of Williams shots looked like they were training with pads. I dont disagree with that decision for the same reason Jesse James states, he got out worked, but he has made adjustments to amend that problem since...big time. I'll say it again Cotto will not KO Tony, if anything it will be the other way around. And, while Cotto will punish Tony to the body, give him an opening for the uppercut and lights out Boriqua!!

    Its gonna be the fight of the year no qualms about it. There may be bigger "events" in boxing (DLH V Mayrunner) but this is the fight of the year. its gonna be awesome.

    Outcome: Cotto will win a decision and look like some of the guys he's disfigured or Margo. wins on a stoppage by cuts...I'll bet on it

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    ...if anyone is going to get cut it's going to be Tony

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    ...if anyone is going to get cut it's going to be Tony
    i dont ever recall a cut on that guys face.

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Then you didn't see his last fight.....feel free to add to this thread after further research on Margarito

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Then you didn't see his last fight.....feel free to add to this thread after further research on Margarito
    that scratch?! please. And why do people have to act like dicks. Are you the end all and be all of boxing forums

    Just because you're a Cotto fan doesnt make Cotto the winner.

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    Default Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

    Im hard pressed to recall a fight in which Margarito faded late? He gets stronger down the stretch,Might be a tad cliché but a good offense can be a great defense.Aside from a fight yeeaars ago with Soberanes in which he was dropped by a liver shot (And got up to win) his body looks tight.There will be much wagering on this one.

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