I am one of the karate guy's now learning how to box under the guidance of scrap so I have a good knowledge of martial arts. Martial arts is very different to boxing but the main characteristics of both are speed timing and distance , Ali obviuosly had all these in abundance. Bruce Lee was an un known quantity He was obviuosly very fast with a great physique but its virtually impossible to measure how good he was as a fighter because we have never seen this. In his films all his fight scenes were choreographed to look as impressive as the technology at the time would allow. Bruce Lee was an ispiration to me and probably the main reason I took up martial arts so I definitely do not have a biased opinion I am simply looking at the facts. Ali was a much much bigger man who time after time proved his worth on the world stage whereas Bruce Lee was much smaller and he had never competed to the same level. Saying he'd had so many street fights is ok but there are no hard facts only what people have said.

One last point I would like to make is that I do not understand the term 'grand master' this is simply a title that certain individuals award themselves part of an ego trip to make themseves seem more important. I believe there is no such thing how do you qualify for this title is it the amount of time studying an art, your grade, how many competitions you have won I just dont understand. I have been quite successful in international karate competition with world championship medals and a commonwealth gold but I'm not considered a master. If anyone can enlighten me please do.