could Calzaghe end up higher than RJJ in the all time p4P list

**amat** · 04-30-2008 10:52 PM

No because P4P, Roy was at the top for years. Calzaghe never was. P4P draws a lot more from talent too, usually the guy at number 1 is regarded as the most talented fighter in the game. That's not the case with Calzaghe.

**SweetPea** · 05-01-2008 04:39 AM

To answer the thread question...... No.

Roy Jones spent the better part of a decade as the best fighter in the world PFP. Calzaghe has most certainly not done that.

**Deanrw** · 05-01-2008 03:40 PM

You have to sit back and look at it all in context. Much of what Joe did up until 2006 is really a wash. He stayed in a weak division and fough mostly fringe opponents. It is a shame because he was then a better fighter than he is now. He could have made some real waves if he moved to 175 earlier.

Right now he will have a tough time beating the fighters you mention. It is not impossible though and if he does, people will look back on him favorably. Jones in his prime had that superman aura about him and it will be practically impossible to overcome.

**Althugz** · 05-01-2008 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Deanrw

You have to sit back and look at it all in context. Much of what Joe did up until 2006 is really a wash. He stayed in a weak division and fough mostly fringe opponents. It is a shame because he was then a better fighter than he is now. He could have made some real waves if he moved to 175 earlier.
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Originally Posted by Dark Loard Al

WHY ? Pavlik is the world middleweight champ , why on earth would he want to move up to SM which is a joke division anyway , or LHW ? Calzaghe is unbeaten but is now trying to cement his status , which in my opinion he should have thought of 6 years ago.

And that, my friends, has been my problem with Joe Calzaghe all along. Good posting

**porkypara** · 05-01-2008 08:04 PM

I think the only fight out there that will boost Calzaghe's legacey is Pavlick.

As for who ranks higher in terms of all time standing I wold say Jones even if he avoided certain fighters in his prime.

**Dark Lord Al** · 05-01-2008 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by porkypara

I think the only fight out there that will boost Calzaghe's legacey is Pavlick.

As for who ranks higher in terms of all time standing I wold say Jones even if he avoided certain fighters in his prime.

WHY ? Pavlik is the world middleweight champ , why on earth would he want to move up to SM which is a joke division anyway , or LHW ? Calzaghe is unbeaten but is now trying to cement his status , which in my opinion he should have thought of 6 years ago.

**porkypara** · 05-01-2008 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by porkypara

I think the only fight out there that will boost Calzaghe's legacey is Pavlick.

As for who ranks higher in terms of all time standing I wold say Jones even if he avoided certain fighters in his prime.

WHY ? Pavlik is the world middleweight champ , why on earth would he want to move up to SM which is a joke division anyway , or LHW ? Calzaghe is unbeaten but is now trying to cement his status , which in my opinion he should have thought of 6 years ago.

I agree with you that Calzaghe should have been the star that he is now 6 years ago but that did not happen for many different reasons.

From Pavlik's point of view a fight with Calzaghe would shoot him straight into the top 4 or 5 P4P and earn him loads of $$$$.

As for Calzaghe he is the only good young fighter in his prime around the same weight.