There were too many close rounds this too be a clear UD. If you look back at my scorecard, and you give all 3 of Hopkins closely won rounds to Joe, maybe you would see it as "a clear UD."

I give credit for body work, and Hopkins landed tons of body shots on the inside to go with those straight rights, and there were some rounds where Joe barely landed a clear punch.

Like I said, Calzaghe won, barely, and for those of you who think he won a wide UD, a la 116-111. 1g5a22, please post your scorecard. I would love to see how you pulled that score off. I bet it looks exactly like Lederman's (cuz you're taking his word for it), and we all know that he's half blind and for that reason credits volume punchers way too much.

Are you Preme or SEANNIE under a new name?